Talk:Dhedh

misunderstanding about some topics

Hello Dear sitush,

                                I felt sorry because you are misunderstanding between some casts and also this page. i already told you some details like why low reputated Casts are called..... not only one cast. Some States in some areas the cast who reputated low cast in this area it is called...... while another place another area another cast is reputated low cast in that area is called..... so not only one cast is said to be...

                                 I hope you understand what I am saying and also clearing about misunderstanding between this world and also this page I hope you help me with updating right information in this Wikipedia about our history our region how our country and also our cast.
  

                                Your faithfully,
                                   Rudhr.

                                 Rudhr.rudhr.54 (talk) 17:10, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

There's no meaning for dhedh and all vankar are not a dhedh you giving a very wrong information bro so remove that post I kindly request to you .. MITAMIN007 (talk) 09:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

about reliable source

Hello,

         I am Rudra and now I am going to tell you something that you don't know about truth between writer and reality.

          First of all you tell me Adolf Hitler is a good man or not I think your answer is absolutely Bad man but you read his book 'main Kamph'. About Adolf Hitler's opinion he was right and he was good man and also he was a volunteer of his country but you know what is the truth.

          In shortly I only told you that different writers are have different thoughts and their different opinion about same topic and different topic.

           In Wikipedia it is our duty to we add right truth and give a reality about our religion,cast ,country, .... etc and also give right detail about topics. 

           I hope you understand my thoughts and also understand what I am saying to you please help me to improve detail about topics and also give me a reason why I am not edit this page.

          Your Friend,
              Rudhr Rudhr.rudhr.54 (talk) 09:46, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rudra, your change made no sense. You have left a sentence "dangling" and are effectively saying that the Dhedh are called Dhedh. I know that there are sometimes different opinions in reliable sources. When that happens, Wikipedia tries to show all of the differing opinions, not remove the ones we do not like. This is connected to our attitude towards neutrality in articles. - Sitush (talk) 20:33, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

   But what about the truth and reality. i told you that we are add correct and accurate detail not a supposition and illustrative detail. Why not we change and something wrong is removed in Wikipedia.it is our duty to remove wrong detail and give correct one.

                                 Your respected,
                                       Rudhr Rudhr.rudhr.54 (talk) 05:31, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

See WP:VNT. - Sitush (talk) 14:28, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Recent revert

This edit makes no sense. It uses arguably poor sources such as counterview.org and completely mangles statements that already existed, eg: by replacing a valid source for the view of Sujata Patel with two sources that bear no connection to that person. I don't think this is the first time this has happened here and I am also aware that we have had a bit of a problem with socks and/or meatpuppets. - Sitush (talk) 04:11, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Can we please have a discussion here. I am not opposed to amending the article but we need reliable sources that are properly cited (page numbers etc) and which are more than just lists of people. We should also avoid "snippet views" from Google Books because they lack context. While I realise that Google Books does not show the same content throughout the world, I have been using proxy servers to check recent additions and they appear to be limited views in India, the US etc as well as here in the UK. - Sitush (talk) 13:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Dhed

First you have not information regarding dhed. This page information is not relavant.your bias is refecting in this information. You study the vankar community they belong to chahan rajput heredity. You are trying imposing the dhed words to vankars and other. I repuest you to study the chauhan Rajput first and make appropriate action to remove word of vankar in your Wikipedia. Indira indu (talk) 07:46, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2020

Ajit Gadhvi (talk) 08:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC) In Gujarat, Dhedhs are considered as sub-caste of the scheduled caste called Chamars. Some of the other castes in which there are few exceptions of Dhedhs are Bawa(Dhedh) or Dhedh-Sadhu(Sadhu), Dhedh-Barot(Barot). They were involved in jobs like carrying away animal carcass and works related to leather, animal hides. The word dhedha has been derived from a Gujarati word dhayadavan, to drag. Dhedhs and Bhil community were closely associated being in similar profession and social status, as out-castes and were two suppressed communities of Gujarat. Bhangis, Chamars, Mahars, Malas, Madigas were some of the communities, who were contemptuously looked down upon as un-touchables.

@Ajit Gadhvi:  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. -ink&fables «talk» 08:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2020 (2)

103.48.105.8 (talk) 09:28, 21 November 2020 (UTC)Dhedhs or Dheds or Dhedhas are one of the scheduled castes of India. They were one of the out-caste and deprived class of Hindu society of India.

They were involved in jobs like carrying away animal carcass and works related to leather, animal hides. The word dhedha has been derived from a Gujarati word dhayadavan, to drag.

In Rajasthan, the community were called Dhedha and according to census of 1901 were identified as untouchables. In British India, in the Bahwalpur, who were called Chamars to east of Punjab. They ate flesh of dead animals and were considered as out-caste by Hindus, though they have Hindu names.

They have nine exogamous section : (1) Gandel (2) Baru-Pal (3) Sahdal (4) Sapune (5) Lilar (6) Bahmanian (7) Japal (8) Lakhale (9) Turke.

In Maharashtra, Mahars were considered a part of Dhedha community. However, after mass conversion of Mahar community from Hinduism to Buddhism, to avoid curse of untouchability, on foot-steps of Bhim Rao Ambedkar, they are now not to be called Dhedhas or even Mahars but Buddhists.

In Gujarat, Dhedhs are considered as sub-caste of the scheduled caste called Chamars. Some of the other castes in which there are few exceptions of Dhedhs are Bawa (Dhedh) or Dhedh-Sadhu (Sadhu), Dhedh-Barot ( Barot).

Dhedhs speak many languages, as per their area of living like Gujarati, Marathi, Rajasthani, Sindhi, Thar

In Kathiawar, the Nagasia Dhehds, once helped the Sarvaiyas to regain their villages of Hathnasi, Jesar and other territories. In recognition of their assistance the Sarvaiya Rajputs forgave Dhedhs from bham tax ( tax on skins of dead animals ) and tax was not levied on all Sarvaiya village till British ruled India.

Dhedhs and Bhil community were closely associated being in similar profession and social status, as out-castes and were two suppressed communities of Gujarat. Bhangis, Dhedhs, Chamars, Mahars, Malas, Madigas were some of the communities, who were contemptuously looked down upon as un-touchables.

Dhedh or Dherh was a term applied to any low caste people in Punjab although they were identified as separate tribe in Central Province in British India. Raidas was from Dhedh community and is said to have spoken that: even today all my kinsman as dhedhs cart carcasses, as they wander around Benaras.Unquote.

In South India, the Dhedhs caste were sometimes dharmakartas of Shiva temples. A census report noted that wealth is a very potent factor, both in the way of levelling down caste heights and filling up social depths....a wealthy member of the Dhedh caste is actually the Dharmakartha of a Siva temple in Southern India and a Sathani (Sattada Srivaisnava temple servant) becomes elevated into a Balija often in the course of a few years ; so also a Palli into a Mudaliar.

Could you please point to reliable sources? – Thjarkur (talk) 09:41, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Providing some evidence to Vankar did this. It's doing by mahar it's part of chamar and valmiki known as bhangi.you have not proper evidence. Hayat mahir (talk) 08:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Remove vankar word

vankar is not belongs to the this cast so please remove vankar word in this page. Vankar.vivah (talk) 21:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree Hayat mahir (talk) 08:26, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

I am going through many book of Indian author dhedh word mainly use for bhangi and chamar because they have been forcing to do

I am going through many book of Indian author dhedh word mainly use for bhangi and chamar because they have been forcing to do some low work. Vankar having occupation of waving cloth it's a precious business. 19th century industry revolution came in India, cloths are being made in factory because of vankar community financial status goes down. Now only in Gujarat they come in scheduled caste apart from that they considered as upper caste I think wikipedia need some little change this article. Hayat mahir (talk) 07:35, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely true Indira indu (talk) 08:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks I want correction in this page Hayat mahir (talk) 09:45, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Vankar

Remove the word of vankar. Hayat mahir (talk) 07:40, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 December 2021

Hayat mahir (talk) 12:37, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Dhed are mainly connected to cleaning work not waving g work. Hayat mahir (talk) 12:38, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:21, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 July 2022

This term is no longer in Use and if any Person is using it then that person is violating Law. 103.161.99.55 (talk) 04:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 05:13, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

banned word under atrocity act

it is banned word so remove this word K zaveri123 (talk) 07:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 December 2023

I recommend removing the line "This community is known as Patels" as this is not true. I am from the Dhedh caste, we have not and do not identify as Patels, those are the landlord community who we are often employed by. Panchanadikar, K. C., & Panchanadikar, J. (1976). SOCIAL STRATIFICATION AND INSTITUTIONAL CHANGE IN A GUJARAT VILLAGE. Sociological Bulletin, 25(2), 225–240. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23618995 24.141.171.184 (talk) 16:34, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done The article originally said Vankar, which is supported by sources, but in Special:Diff/981139936, User:Indira indu changed it to Patel. Liu1126 (talk) 13:57, 6 December 2023 (UTC)