Talk:Detroit News Orchestra

Detroit News Orchestra was one of the Music good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
April 11, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
February 25, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 4, 2020.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 16-piece Detroit News Orchestra was the first symphonic orchestra in the world organized specifically to play on radio?

Current status: Delisted good article

Michigan: Detroit Low‑importance

	Michigan portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Michigan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Michigan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MichiganWikipedia:WikiProject MichiganTemplate:WikiProject MichiganMichigan articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Detroit task force.

Classical music

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Classical music, which aims to improve, expand, copy edit, and maintain all articles related to classical music, that are not covered by other classical music related projects. Please read the guidelines for writing and maintaining articles. To participate, you can edit this article or visit the project page for more details.Classical musicWikipedia:WikiProject Classical musicTemplate:WikiProject Classical musicClassical music articles

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

Detroit News Orchestra

... that the 16-piece Detroit News Orchestra (pictured) was the first symphonic orchestra in the world organized specifically to play on radio? Source: Encyclopedia of American Radio, 1920-1960, Volume 2. "It was the first orchestra organized specifically for radio broadcasting.
Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/WOKO

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 12:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Article is long enough for DYK, and was nominated in a timely manner. QPQ has been completed. No concerning pings on Earwigs, and no close paraphrasing. Hook is cited, interesting, and short enough for DYK; AGF on offline source. Morgan695 (talk) 17:35, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Detroit News Orchestra/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 12:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Am conducting this review as part of the GAN Backlog Drive of April to May 2020. MWright96 (talk) 12:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Lead[edit]

"The orchestra's broadcasts could be received across most of North America" - odd, it says in the prose half of North America. Which is correct?

The map in the article shows more than half. And if one was talking about population at the time, it would be way more. In fact, it shows that transmission extends well down into Central America. This is not a material distinction. Pick what you want. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:01, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done - corrected lead to read half way across North America. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

"sometimes referred to as the "little symphony,"" - by whom exactly? Do we know?

Here "The Detroit News Orchestra - American Radio History" (PDF). p. 22. Retrieved April 11, 2020.

Done - copy edited accordingly. -- Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:11, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"for churches, schools, and other non-profit organization as a public relations outreach to their listeners." - organizations

Done corrected. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Listers in Hawaii[edit]

"The transmission was received clearly at 6:30 P.M. local time in the Hawaiian Islands by A. F. Costa, the postmaster at Wailuku, Hawaii." - I think the mention of Hawaii at the end of this sentence is redundant since the Hawaiian Islands are mentioned earlier in this sentence.

Done - copy edit fix. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:22, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"over 4,400 miles (7,100 km) from Detroit." - more than?

Done - that was more than --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:23, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

The ISBNs of the sources are missing and it would be benefical if they were included

Fixed 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:39, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the article. Will put on hold to allow the nominator to address/respond to the queries raised above. MWright96 (talk) 13:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@MWright96: - addressed all issues. Can you take a look at it again. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:19, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Have re-reviewed the article, I am happy with the changes and will promote the article to GA status. MWright96 (talk) 18:07, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]