Talk:Demographics of Estonia

Finnish and Estonian

In fact, spoken finnish and estonian are ABSOLUTELY NOT mutually intelligible. Both parties are with considerable effort able to make some sense from the written form, but virtually every time finnish and estonians meet, they resort to english.

I will delete that part from the text as it is incorrect.

The edited form stands as: "The two languages, even if close relatives in linquistic terms, are not mutually intelligible to native speakers." -MrQ

Can't say that I agree. It is not effortlessly mutually intelligible, so people do revert to English as that's effortless (or actually the more common thing is that they revert to Finnish - pidgin Finnish), but with some effort it is possible to communicate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.245.85 (talk) 00:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Demographics figure

The demographics figure needs to be updated with 2004 information: 1,308.00. Source: http://faostat.fao.org/site/429/DesktopDefault.aspx?PageID=429

Van der Hoorn 21:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Updated the figure with data from 1970-2009. Van der Hoorn (talk) 09:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Zulus

I'm pretty sure that the Zulu mentioned in the article left the country a few years back. Should he be removed from the demoigraphic table, too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.27.67.160 (talk) 08:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.22.90 (talk) 18:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

hiv-aids

where is article about HIV and AIDS for Estonia?

i know its BIG problem in Estonia, but no word here about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.3.55.104 (talk) 16:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

it has nothing got to do with demography. "[[[Demography]]] encompasses the study of the size, structure and distribution of these populations, and spatial and/or temporal changes in them in response to birth, migration, aging and death."

--88.165.110.32 (talk) 20:26, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Nationality percentages

The percentages of the different nationalities given in the paragraph "Ethnic groups" does not fit with the percentages from the CIA World factbook or the Estonian bureau of statistics. Where do these numbers come from? Do they exclude inhabitants with Russian citizenship? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thathánka Íyotake (talk • contribs) 14:46, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

It seems to have been corrected now. Thanks. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 12:10, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Birth and Death rates

In this section it says the source is the CIA factbook, but there's no link. Where is this data found on the factbook website? Could someone please properly source it? I can't find where the factbook mentions total births/deaths either. Also, the 2009 figures on the factbook seem inconsistent with the trends seen on that chart which leads me to believe some other source was used (which is probably even better since the factbook figures are usually not very accurate). Could we get that source if that's the case? Thanks. LokiiT (talk) 18:19, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm in the process of creating a new table by using data from Statistics Estonia. The result so far can be viewed here. However, I'm still missing population numbers from 1945-1969. If you can find any reliable source(s) for them, please let me know. I found NationMaster, but it shows different population numbers for all years.

I also noticed the birth and death rates are fairly consistent with the current table in the article, so I wonder where the rates from 1950-1969 came from in the current table. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 01:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

You could try poking around at demoscope.ru. That's where I got the data for all the demographic charts I've made, I'm sure they have Estonia figures somewhere. LokiiT (talk) 01:39, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if migration should be added to the table you are working on? --Martintg (talk) 10:27, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it should be added, but didn't have time so far to do so; plus I'm not sure if migration statistics are available for a longer time. So far I could only find data from the year 2000 and later. I also want to create some graphs out of the table (just like I did for population), i.e. a line graph with 3 lines: one for natural increase, one for total migration and one for the total population change. I think that should show some nice trends. Cheers, Van der Hoorn (talk • contribs) 15:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

"54% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force"

Any formalization of this belief? Is it left over from animism or earlier paganism that's revived? It's very interesting and not expounded upon. 97.85.168.22 (talk) 17:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Religion vs ethnicity

Shouldn't religion be separated out from the ethnicity tables? Jews and Hindus are not ethnicities and most other country articles seem to separate the two. Akerbeltz (talk) 21:17, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Doesn't make clear what percent of first-language Russian-speakers speak Estonian and vice versa

The article doesn't make clear what percent of first-language Russian-speakers speak Estonian.

It also doesn't quite make clear what percent of first-language Estonian-speakers speak Russian.

(Although it says about 30% are L1 Russian, and 40% know Russian at all, so... about 14% of L1 Estonian speakers (who are about 70% of total population) learn Russian?) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Remorinitio (talk • contribs) 13:47, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Choosing a more apolitical wording

I'm not sure the expression "soviet occupation" is appropriate here. I'd like to transit towards a more apolital wording.

"Languages spoken in Estonia largely reflect the ethnic groups composing the country, and thus have changed with historical trends affecting the ethnic makeup of the country. Religion plays a small part in the lives of most Estonians,[1][2] largely as a result of the Soviet occupation from 1944–1991".

Numbering and zeros in Vital Statistics table

Ripas1997 added zeros in the Vital statsitics population table. Its changed like 1,316 -> 1,316,000 I dont understand, why it's nessessary and this makes average year's population numbers even more unpunctual, as numbers are calculated always in thousands... Has someone more arguments to this change?

I'm sorry, I do like the idea to reverse this change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maduk24 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Unreferenced new data in the table

Somebody added "Crude migration change (per 1000)" numbers to the data table. It's unclear and without reference from where such data is taken. Please add, mr. ‎84.24.69.239  ??? Maduk24 (talk) 15:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)