Talk:Deleted scene

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https://books.google.com/books?id=hXOxnJa7vLAC&pg=PT190 Deleted scene has a DVD extra - Film editing handbook
https://books.google.com/books?id=Wo02cUM3ce8C&pg=PT168 Deleted scene as a special edition - Film Analysis Handbook
https://books.google.com/books?id=21PNCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA110 Example of Deleted scene in Singing in the rain - The DVD and the Study of Film: The Attainable Text
https://books.google.com/books?id=y82fn_C1kKoC&pg=PA130 essay discussing deleted scenes - In the Moment: Myth and Method in Contemporary Hollywood Film Acting
https://books.google.com/books?id=ND0kAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA84 deleted scene as content - Beyond the Screen: Emerging Cinema and Engaging Audiences
https://books.google.com/books?id=oliyEnpQibUC&pg=PT221 deleted scene in editing - The Healthy Edit: Creative Techniques for Perfecting Your Movie
https://books.google.com/books?id=27fQBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA1828 deleted scene and NAACP wanting it to be restored - Cinema Civil Rights: Regulation, Repression, and Race in the Classical
https://books.google.com/books?id=kWFosl5j3fIC&pg=PA369 Deleted scene as part of the storytelling - Digital Storytelling: A Creator's Guide to Interactive Entertainment

Alternate Endings[edit]

Aren't alternate endings a kind of deleted scene? Should they be included here, or in a separate article? There isn't anything right now. Ace of Sevens

I would say that if there's enough material to have its own article, alternate ending should have its own article - but also have a reference here, as "alternate scenes" are sometimes counted as "deleted scenes" (and if you go by the literal meaning of "deleted scene", they are), and obviously, an alternate ending is comprised of one or more alternate scenes.

There might actually be an article in that; you would have to detail the history of the concept, including when, how, and by whom the first known alternate ending for a film was released (in either partially or fully completed film format, or as a script, or both, since I'm sure some alternate endings in film were known about, but never filmed), as well as mentions of a few other films since then that had known alternate endings (especially ones known to have had alternate endings filmed, not just written), and perhaps a brief bit on the current state of alternate scenes, including such things as how alternate endings are sometimes featured as DVD extras now in either filmed or textual format (and how they're used as a marketing tool for the DVDs). Didn't 28 Days Later have an alternate ending available on the DVD? I know at least one horror film has, because I remember seeing ads for something like that that mentioned it... Runa27 09:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I started the alternate ending page (after reworking the multiple endings page). Feel free to add the historical stuff as you can find it. Adam 16:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic! :D Thanks for all of your hard work (especially since it makes it feel even more like a proper Wikipedia page, to have some "See Also"s, heh)! I'm going to be hunting up the historical stuff in coming weeks and such. First, though, I'm gonna see if I can find a film/TV Wikiproject that may be able to help out as well. :) Runa27 02:58, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter, Firefly, Serenity overkill[edit]

Though technically not breaking any rules, these three texts seem to be kind of excessively used as reference points. Perhaps more famous deleted scenes should be used, rather than what was on the desk of the last editor? --86.20.157.172 15:40, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The most famous deleted scene is probably the pie fight in Dr. Strangelove. -- 93.106.28.12 (talk) 23:07, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mm... apologies. It's just that I was one of the early editors, and those are what I'm familiar with as far as deleted scenes, on account of, well, I don't have every single DVD ever made. :P I made sure to include some of the notable oddities like Desperate Housewives though, and I'm happy to see people adding more known deleted scenes, since it does give it wider scope. That said... the Harry Potter films are some of the highest-grossing films in history. While I won't argue they aren't "kind of excessively used as reference points" (though you really don't need to be snippy about it, fellow anon editor... especially if you're not bothering to remedy the situation by adding material, ahem) but the Knockturn Alley scene in particular having been removed was a bit of an annoyance to a lot of fans when it came out (it really is kind of weird they cut it considering the impact on the plot), and I would think that out of "famous deleted scenes", the Harry Potter flicks would count as... you know, relatively notable, given the historical notability of the films. Additionally: the Serenity and Firefly references have (unlike a lot of other "reference points" around here) very detailed references, which are cited, pointing out exactly why each scene was removed, and they really were removed for a number of different reasons. In other words - it was appropriate to illustrate the points, and it was sourced and able to be cited to the source. ;) Which is why they're there. Show me some other notable series that have that well-documented citeable sources on that, and I'll add them too, of course. 70.118.80.144 (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

individual Deleted Scenes[edit]

Except for alternate endings, there is almost no information at all about individual deleted scenes anywhere on the internet. There are plenty of DVD review sites stating how many deleted scenes there are on a certain DVD but no descriptions of the scenes themselves. There are some exceptions of course; Memory Alpha, Wookieepedia and Battlestar Wiki all have a list of deleted scenes article. I plan on adding deleted scenes information to the article of every movie and TV series that has deleted scenes. Is anyone with me? 218.215.144.146 (talk) 09:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me, so long as you can cite an appropriate source (such as a DVD or shooting script, director interviews, etc.). Sure as heck better than sticking it in the trivia section, far as I'm concerned. ;) Hint: If you're serious about this to that large an extent, you may want to start a task force under for instance, WikiProject Films (see top of discussion page for a link), for this, in order to get other people to pull together on it. A key point would be deciding if there should be a standard for where the Deleted Scenes -related content should be placed - if a series has a lot of them but said series is broken up into multiple season or episode articles, it might be best to include the scenes on the subpages then under their own sections, for instance, whereas if there is only one or two deleted scenes but they're pretty important, it might be better to make a subsection under Production for the film or series, or if it's something like Firefly that has individual episode articles but only three of the episodes have deleted scenes, it could just have a subsection on that respective episode article on it. And of course, one should always cite it if there is information as to why the scene was cut, if it's available. 70.118.80.144 (talk) 03:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Examples[edit]

Why are all but one of the examples from children's shows? Is Thomas the Tank Engine really the best example of this? Czolgolz (talk) 00:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Other Examples section[edit]

Do we still need the "Other examples" section? Most films these days feature deleted scenes as extras on their home media (DVD, Blu-ray). Many of these are either unsourced or sourced only to show that such a scene exists, but don't really contribute to the overall method of using this in the article. @Delusion23: who tagged it today. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 22:58, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Example farm pasted here[edit]

In The Wizard of Oz, the song If I Only Had a Brain was originally over 4 minutes long, but was cut short by removing a 3-minute dance sequence performed by Ray Bolger, although this segment has since been included as a bonus feature on all DVD releases from 1999-onward.
In The Rugrats Movie, there was a nightmare about Dr. Lipschitz and the march of the wagon.
In Thomas and the Magic Railroad, the scene 54 "Summer Sundae" was deleted from the main presentation, but can be found on the American DVD.^[1] Scenes involving a villain character named P.T. Boomer were also cut from the final version.^[2]
In the 1969 film The Italian Job there was a scene which showed the Minis and Italian police cars in a room with an orchestra playing "The Blue Danube". This scene is included on the special features on the DVD.
In the 1994 film The Mask, there were two deleted scenes. One scene shows Odin banishing Loki as a prologue, and the other features Dorian Tyrell killing Peggy Brandt after putting the mask on. These scenes were included on the special features on the DVD.
In the 1995 Pixar film Toy Story, the DVD special features included two deleted scenes. One shows Sid torturing Woody and Buzz, and the other features Woody trying to explain something to Buzz, but he struggles and the toolbox closes itself.
In the 2008 Pixar film WALL-E, the DVD special features included two deleted scenes. In "Garbage Airlock", the scene shows that EVE was doing WALL-E's role while WALL-E was doing EVE's. In another deleted scene called "Dumped", it shows WALL-E and EVE in a storage room and EVE cares more about the plant than he does.
In the film Windtalkers, some parts of the assault scene in Saipan were deleted in the censored version, while retained in the original version. Also after Enders talks to Gunny, the scene where Enders goes on a date with the nurse, with consecutive love scene on the seashore, while Yahzee plays his harmonica, is also deleted.
The 1975 musical film The Rocky Horror Picture Show has two deleted scenes, both of which are songs. The first (and most notable) is "Superheroes", a song played towards the end of the film. While intact in the original UK cut of the film, the song/scene was omitted from the US release. The other is a completely absent song called "Once in a While", which would have been placed between the reprise of "I Can Make You a Man" and "Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch-a, Touch Me".
Scenes are cut from many Rankin/Bass specials for this reason. In Rudolph's Shiny New Year, there was a song called "Make Every Moment Count". This is taken off TV showings, likely in fear it might intimidate young children.

References

^ "Magic Railroad Artwork". sodor-island.net. Retrieved 2014-07-19.
^ "Magic Railroad Revealed". sodor-island.net. Retrieved 2014-07-19.

Focus on deletions only[edit]

This should focus on notable scenes that were dropped from the film when it reached the original release or broadcast, not for edits made afterwards (e.g. Edited for television, edited for video, adaptations in other countries, or censorship in television), which is the subject of Re-edited films. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:06, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wall-e[edit]

Wut 187.120.43.6 (talk) 14:51, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Magic Railroad Artwork". sodor-island.net. Retrieved 2014-07-19.

[2] "Magic Railroad Revealed". sodor-island.net. Retrieved 2014-07-19.

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