Talk:David Watson (evangelist)

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Notability[edit]

Notability in question? Perhaps one of the most notable Anglicans since the War. Indeed, work needs to be done, but notability? Hyper3 (talk) 15:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome to add material demonstrating substantial third party coverage -- I just couldn't find any. Unfortunately wikipedia is chock full of " 'famous' people that nobody appears to have ever written about" -- so the only way of telling is to template unsourced (for lack of sourcing), and apparently unsourcable (for possible lack of sufficient notability to attract third-party attention), articles -- until either they're sourced, pruned back to a stub or redirected. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 16:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hardly enough on its own, but I found this reference. This Google search ("david watson" AND York AND Christian) has tens of thousands more (probably not all relevant). At least it's enough to prove he existed! :-) --Chris Jefferies (talk) 13:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a wiki or similar, not a WP:RS. My impression of Watson is that he seems to have been very much somebody working at the 'coalface' of evangelism -- so, although he had a (possibly quite considerable) impact, he may have left little, if anything, in terms of a paper-trail of published writing about him. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 13:22, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:WIKISTALKing unrelated to the notability of this topic.

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

This would be funny if it weren't so ... danged Fortean.

18:32, July 26 2008 -- hrafn voted for the deletion of the biography of the American Christian writer David Watson -- David C. C. Watson. His reason: "non-notability." The result of the discussion was "no concensus."

18:29, July 28, 2008 -- Two days later, almost to the minute, Hrafn added a template proposing the deletion of the biography of the British Christian writer David Watson -- David C. K, Watson. His reason? You guessed it: "non-notability."

One was a Creationist and the other an Anglican minister, but never mind; if you are a Christian and your name is David Watson, [hrafn wants you out of Wikipedia!]

With tons of wiki-love and wiki-laughs, yours, catherine yronwode Catherineyronwode (talk) 03:06, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To suggest that he is not notable is a bit weird. That is truly weird; he is very widely known and remembered in Christian circles in the UK. I have a feeling that the problem is that he died before the internet age, and that the material about him was mainly ephemeral. He was, after all, a published author with mainstream publishers like Hodders, which alone would indicate notability. Isn't the point of the notability policy is to stop vanity articles, not material of real content such as this, surely? Roger Pearse 13:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roger Pearse (talk • contribs)

Manwaring & St Cuthberts/St Michael le Belfrey[edit]

Manwaring makes no mention of St Cuthberts or a move, and makes it appear that the entire revival happened at St Michael le Belfrey. So really either we need a different source to support the version of events currently in the article or to alter the article to match Manwaring's account. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 12:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The point being made by the Manwaring quote is that there was a rapidly growing work relating to Watson; where they met and what buildings they used was not, I thought the point. However, have altered the entry to avoid further problems.Hyper3 (talk) 15:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter in which church this took place, but it does matter that the article match the source -- so (per WP:V, "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" ) I will rewrite this to match what Manwaring says, unless and until we find a more detailed source that includes St Cuthberts (whose name I cannot find linked to Watson in any RS) in the story. I must admit that I find this inability to verify the specifics of what is supposed to be one of Watson's career highpoints to be troubling. Hrafn^Talk_Stalk 04:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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