Talk:Darrell Long

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Somebody wrote:

"Disagreeing about the notability of the subject does not constitute vandalism. This is a vanity page that does not fulfill Wikipedia requirements for notability or quality."

However, they didn't sign it.

I think that the information is clearly sourced, and the fact that the individual is an IEEE Fellow should be sufficient to meet the Wikipedia notability standards. I'm therefore removing the tags. Simsong (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced material[edit]

As the article currently stands, there's a lot of unsourced material being included. If editors can find RS for the following, it would really help the article:

  • The subject's birthday. Per WP:BLPPRIVACY, this should likely be removed until a RS can be found. I don't see any attribution for this information.
  • Marriage to Mary Katherine Long. In the infobox, it states Darrell was married to Mary from 1984 to her death in 2014. The source is an article from UC Santa Cruz stating they have set up a prize to honor her memory (seen here). That verifies Mary died, not that she was married to Darrell (who isn't even mentioned). I found an online obit by a local funeral home that mentions they were married, but it's not a RS as I believe anyone can write those, there's no date, and no byline (seen here).
  • Director emeritus of the IEEE Letters of the Computer Society. The archived source doesn't mention Long or the title.
  • Editor-in-Chief, emeritus, of the ACM Transactions on Storage. The archived source is a dead link. The only sources I can find that mention that title are WP mirrors such as this. His CV also doesn't mention this title (or the former one for IEEE). I'm wondering if an editor is using those terms to denote he was a previous director/editor-in-chief, but in using the language that is currently on the page, it sounds as if they are titles from the organizations.
  • Long "pioneering" topics. This would be a listed example of MOS:PEACOCK, which specifically calls out that term. The sources for the "pioneering" claims do not support it. The first claim, that "Long pioneered the idea of storing metadata separately from data in the Swift file system", is only sourced to his paper. That paper would not state he pioneered that idea. The second claim, that "Long is one of the pioneers in data deduplication", is again just sourced to papers Long has written. Neither source denotes he was a "pioneer", especially considering each paper was written with multiple other authors.

I'm interested in hearing other editor's thoughts before I make these changes, as it will likely look like I am gutting the article. That is not my intention, but BLPs require verification for claims made, especially when they include personal info (birthdays, marriages); academic titles that cannot be verified; and claims of pioneering concepts. Any thoughts appreciated! --Kbabej (talk) 15:22, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if any of you are watching this talk page, so tagging non-IP editors who have edited the article in the last week out of courtesy. If not interested, please ignore! Ediors include: @Maddy from Celeste; @Dizzyflamingo; @Melcous; @Melecie; @Mlogic; and @Traumerei. --Kbabej (talk) 17:05, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
UPDATE: Given it's been a week since I posted these concerns and no one has replied, I assumed there wouldn't be any ojection to me making these changes. I've removed all the above-listed content except for bullet 2, which is the subject's marriage to Katherine Long (which I had previously tagged as having failed verification). Thanks all! Cheers. --Kbabej (talk) 17:15, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]