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"alcamists" spelling?[edit]

In the section "The nine mysteries" - Earth - is the word "alcamists" a misspelling of "alchemists" or is it a term used in the book? --zandperl 02:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it is a misspelling in "The nine mysteries" - Earth - and should be spelt "alchemists". I should have payed more attention to the book when typing that up. --Draco Hunt

Fixed alchemist reference. --JGerretse 17:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Simkin

Simkin is one of Joram's companions, a powerful magus who seemingly has no morals or regard for human life (why should he, he's met Millions of people any way). I have removed the words in brackets as I believe the tone is too informal for a wikipedia article.

Overmage 16:13, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The words in brackets were in the exact phrase the Darksword Adventures used to show how little regard Simkin has for human life.

Draco Hunt 08:21, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this criticism was lodgsd in 2007, and going on over 12 years there still few sources cited for this article, I suggest that th characterization of Simkin in the article is adequate. Even if Darksword Adventures was cited, the bracketed material would not invalidate the characterization of Simkin. Simkin would think that you are playing a game, his interpretation of life - "pon my honor."47.137.185.72 (talk) 04:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

removed Causes of the Iron War section[edit]

I have removed the entire section on the Causes of the Iron War. Initially, I attempted to rework the horrible grammar in the section, but gave up and simply removed it due to its extreme incoherence. The section is preserved here. I would be appreciative of any efforts to rewrite this more coherently, as it is beyond my meager capabilities.

The initial cause of the Iron wars is attributed to the constant battle for supremacy of the empire between two city-states (Merilon and Trandar). Another underlying cause was the increasing rate at which the Technologists developed. In the initial stages of the war, it was conducted on the Field of Glory, where no actual killing took place. As the war got out of hand, the battleground shifted to Thimhallen itself.

The technologists were creating machines for war and were paid a great amount of Life (magic) for their construction, which in turn allowed the technologists to create even more powerful war machines.

At the end of the war with Trandar destroyed and Merilon weakened the Bishop said to his people, "you have been duped by the sorcerers of the Dark arts into helping them take over the world, now we shall destroy them their machines and cast them into Death." After this technologists were forced to live in the outland or risk being cast beyond. {{endspoiler}}

Overmage 16:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add this section (rewritten below). I'd do it myself, but I'm a bit of a wiki newbie.--JGerretse 17:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

The Iron Wars mark the struggle for supremacy between the city-states of Merilon and Trandar. Though the war was initially conducted on the Field of Glory, where no actual killing took place, the battleground ultimately shifted to Thimhallen itself.

The Technologists, whose rapid development contributed greatly to the Iron Wars, constructed the war machines employed during the struggle. They were paid a great amount of Life (magic) for these machines, and the Technologists in turn used this magic to create machines of incredible power.

When the Iron Wars came to an end, Trandar was destroyed and Merilon was severely weakened. The Bishop of the Realm told the survivors that they had been duped by the Technologists, whose ambitions were to conquer all of Thimhallen. The Bishop called for the destruction of all machinery and cast the Technologists into exile. Many Technologists were sent Beyond, while those who escaped were forced to live in the Outland, out of reach.{{endspoiler}}

Spoilers and supposed "vandalism"[edit]

I recently edited this article, noting that spoilers follow in the section on the characters. I admit that simply writing "SPOILERS" was not the best way to do it. But why did the person who reverted it refer to it as "vandalism"? Pointing out that spoilers follow hardly strikes me as vandalism; in fact, such a note might be helpful to those who don't want something spoiled. So I wanted to ask, what's the reasoning behind calling this vandalism? If I did something wrong, I'd like it explained rather than just be given a label. If it's for another reason, that should be made clear. Thank you. 154.20.158.94 (talk) 05:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki policy states (somewhere) that due to the nature of an encyclopedia, spoilers should be assumed and thus a spoilers tag shouldn't be necessary nor used. I don't know where it's stated so I can't quote it for you or link it to you, but that's why they removed spoilers. As for why they called it vandalism, probably because they're a tool on a Wiki power trip (this is a common disease).168.122.64.125 (talk) 18:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! "They're a tool on a Wiki power trip (this is a common disease)" Almost 11 years on, nothing much has change with the powers that run Wikipedia! (watch, they will tell me that "talk pages are not a forum". Wiki admins are predictable as gravity. 47.137.185.72 (talk) 04:53, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with this page[edit]

This page has multiple issues as I see it which should be corrected.

There are a number of spelling and grammatical errors, which I shall try and fix. Parts of the article are written in essay form, there are an absurd numbers of run-on sentences, and most of the sections could be reformatted and trimmed down from the block of text they are now. There are also a number of editor opinions. --Pstanton (talk) 22:13, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the entire "Joram" character section is just a plot summary of the series, basically. --Pstanton (talk) 22:20, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finally, after reading it over a few times, I think the main issue is that the character section is far too long and too detailed, and not well written. It needs to be cut down to the relevant facts and re-written for better structure. --Pstanton (talk) 22:29, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Magi of Death[edit]

I have read all of the books affiliated with Darksword. I can think of no place where they are affiliated with "magi". Thay are called "practitioners of the Dark Arts, Technologists, or Sorcerers". When Saryon first glimpses Dark Art book in the Font's Inner Library, he sees descriptions of wheels and pulleys - not magical tools. Have I missed where the "joiners of life (male-female missionary sex was also forbidden in Thimhallan) were official "magi"? 47.137.185.72 (talk) 05:16, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]