Talk:Dan Hornsby

Article status / maintenance

Hello, I have gone through the article and found citations for everything but "and then moved to other stations like WATL and WCON. In 1939, he appeared in the first television broadcast in Atlanta." in the Great Depression section.

There have been some cosmetic changes with images grouped within the relevant sections, which I tweaked a bit to flow in a kind of standard approach. There's a pretty wide variety of opinions about how to group images. How does this version look?–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:18, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Copyright violations

Paraphrasing

A lot of the content that I found was a duplicate of content from several sources. I paraphrased, but I see that the earwig copyvio detector found that this source is almost 50% similarity between the article and the source. It's primarily an issue with sets of songs, people, etc.

I'll work on paraphrasing where I can. After that, the article will have to be processed with through the Revision deletion process to hide all the versions that content that is an exact copy of content from a source or close paraphrasing.–CaroleHenson (talk) 20:33, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

It's now down to 13.8%. The remaining duplicates in the Wikipedia article and the Shelby Star article are:

• Article title "Musician who wrote song about 1928 Shelby Disaster recognized by Grammy Museum"
• Organizations "Atlanta Country Music Hall of Fame"
• Song titles

Interestingly, I thought I had another source to work on, but these changes fixed that article's issues. Yay.  Done with this step.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:37, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of copyvio versions

I posted User_talk:Diannaa#Dan_Hornsby this topic to figure out the best next step for this scenario.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I am hearing that we're good. Nothing needs to be done now that the content is paraphrased. Yay!–CaroleHenson (talk) 00:48, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes (July 21, 2023)

I am not understanding all of the edits from this diff of six versions. In some cases there are good copy edits. In others, the edits conflict with guidelines like WP:Surname. So, I'll try and sort out what I am seeing and fixes here:

• Changes that do not appear to have come from the cited source - also allow people to come to conclusions about the info - rather than adding content that is not in the sources. And the meaning and people involved cannot be changed without adding sources.
• Adding "and singer songwriter" to the "Talent scout" section. Singer and songwriter covered in other sections
• Two problems with adding "Isaac Daniel" - that is not his WP:Commonname and goes against WP:Surname.
• If you want to show provenance, using language from the article - that she inherited them after "her parents died"

See this <removed diff>–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Added fourth bullet and new diff Of the changes by the IP user - and after corrections were made.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:08, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Suggestions: If there is content that does not come from the cited source, if you can find a source for the information. For instance, the 1910 census does not have Anna May's maiden name, it says "Anna May Hornsby". If you can find a source with her maiden name, like a newspaper article or marriage record about their marriage, then the change can be made.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:14, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes (July 30, 2023)

Changes were made to the article that are inaccurate - and without adding sources for the information here.

• The 1910 census shows Hornsby's father's name as "Joe T. Hornsby". Do you have a source that shows that his middle name was Todd?
• In Joseph Thomas Hornsby spent most of his childhood in Atlanta, GA where he lived in 1910. His middle name is given here as "Thomas". Strange. Have a source for his middle name being Thomas, if that's right.
• In both cases, his father's name is inserted for the WP:Surname of the subject of the article, Dan Hornsby.
  • There is a guideline, WP:Surname, for use in a biography of a person. An example of it's use is that if the article is about Hillary Clinton, then after the first use of "Hillary Clinton", then "Clinton" means Hillary... and Bill should be stated as "Bill" or "Bill Clinton".
• The census and another source shows he lived in Fort Worth, Texas, not Atlanta, during a lot of his childhood. I am not sure how you can debunk the U.S. Federal Census.

Since there seems to be a problem with understanding the use of the surname for the subject of the article, I will put Dan's name in the sentence that follows his parent's names hopefully circumventing further attempts to add father's name is not inserted.–CaroleHenson (talk) 14:37, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Warnings, since the user is an IP address

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you.

Hello, I'm CaroleHenson. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. –CaroleHenson (talk) 14:46, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Incident opened at ANI about disruptive edits

An incident has been opened regarding the Dan Hornsby and Nikki Hornsby articles at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Dan Hornsby and Nikki Hornsby disruption / vandalism by IP user(s)–CaroleHenson (talk) 15:33, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

The conclusion of the incident was in this version:

"Protection is the only viable next move. 3 months semi on both (Dan Hornsby and Nikki Hornsby, and we can evaluate from there. I made it long enough to encourage the IPs to talk, not just wait it out." Courcelles (talk) 13:05, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

–CaroleHenson (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2023 (UTC)