Talk:Damson

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The French quetsche[edit]

I think this is the German/Austrian Zwetschke rather than Kriechenpflaume.

Muscadine grape[edit]

This page appears to be lost in the ether. The Muscadine page doesn't link to it, and this page doesn't even mention muscadine.

"Bullis and its variants (bullace, bullet grape, bull grape) are very old names for dark-fruited muscadines." http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/hil/hil-8203.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.209.7 (talk) 13:45, 7 November 2006‎

Forgive my ignorance, but why would a page about a plum cultivar have anything to do with a grape? Damsons grow on trees, not vines, and have stones, not seeds Carre 22:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh, I see now - you're referring to the quoted extract from the link. See the sentence that follow your extract:

"or, alternatively, muscadines were called "Bullace" because of their resemblance to a European plum of the same name, and that Bullis, Bull and Bullet are all corruptions of the Bullace!"

This page is about the "European plum of the same name". See http://www.brickfieldspark.org/data/bullace.htm for more on the Damson use of "Bullace". It seems you're coming here with a US-centric POV; nothing wrong with that - I'm here with a UK POV :). Perhaps what's needed then, if you got to the Damson page from a Bullace search, is a disambiguation page at Bullace, pointing either here, or the Muscadine page, depending on context. Carre 22:38, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover,Bullaces and Damsons are not the same thing,at least here in the UK (from whence,after all,both were brought to the US). Damsons are as described,whereas Bullaces are small round plums,either red, or blushed-yellow (Shepherd's Bullace).I have altered the main article to reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.9.245 (talk) 20:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Close up picture[edit]

Anyone got a close up picture of Damson fruit? -- Harry Wood 23:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Prunus insititia[edit]

Maybe this page could move to, or reference, Prunus insititia? Or vice versa. 84.9.32.215 07:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why?

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Deletion of distinguish advisory[edit]

Deleted "distinguish" advisory. The words "Damson" (a plum) and "Ransom" (wild garlic) are simply not close enough or confused with one another often enough to warrant such a disambiguation. They are neither homonyms, homophones, or anything even close.

Distinguishing "Ransoms" and "Ramps", one wild garlic, the other wild leek, that would make more sense. It is done, however, in the body of those articles.Wikiuser100 (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But the UK term for Wild Garlic is RAMSON which is only one letter different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.9.245 (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proper subspecies[edit]

The damson is not Prunus x domestica but Prunus domestica L. subsp. insititia. See Sorting Prunus names, http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Prunus_Pt2.html. Thank you. Wikiuser100 (talk) 18:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of fruit[edit]

It looks more like plums than damsons to me.--JBellis (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely damsons, I'm afraid. ModWilson (talk|contribs) 15:54, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are we really sure the fruit in the picture are damsons? They look like some other variety of dessert plum to me. Damsons in the UK generally grow much smaller, thus seldom forming much of a cluster, and don't have that whitish covering, appearing a shiny green and turning a very distinctive dark, glossy purple when ripe. They are also a pretty regular ellipsoid, with only a very slight depression. Of course, they may vary a good deal in other countries, so I'm only checking. They are in season now, and I'm in the process of harvesting and processing them, so I can get a photo quickly if required. Sjwells53 (talk) 11:25, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another photo sounds like a good idea. If there is variation in how they look, that would be helpful to those of us who are confused about damsons, bullaces, mirabelles, prune plums, etc. Perhaps adding it to the Commons gallery linked at the bottom of the page would be a good idea. Nadiatalent (talk) 16:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

French quetsche = Not French But German Too[edit]

I am not so sure if "Quetsche" is a French word. I am a German (from Berlin), and grew up using this word for plums. Also, look at the typical German "sch" inside the word "Quetsche". Some further research has to be done about the nationality of this word. SvenLittkowski (talk) 08:45, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Damson or Damascene[edit]

On our now-defunct family smallholding in the East Midlands several decades ago were various fruit trees, including Plum, Damson and one which was a Damson and Plum cross. It was not the only one of its kind in our village, and each was referred to by all who knew it as a Damascene. Visually it was larger than a Damson and obviously neither of its sources. That, and the reference to those trees by other members of the agricultural community, suggests that the term is not archaic and does refer to a specific variety/cultivar, call it what you will but don't suggest it's another word for Damson. All I have to support it is this, as all other authorities I was familiar with are long gone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EA01:1090:415B:2D55:3410:3DF0 (talk) 09:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is referenced in the article: "As time progressed, a distinction developed between the varieties known as "damascenes" and the (usually smaller) types called "damsons", to the degree that by 1891 they were the subject of a lawsuit when a Nottinghamshire grocer complained about being supplied one when he had ordered the other"