Talk:Cynesige

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Cynesige/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk · contribs) 20:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

An informative article on a medieval English Bishop.

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Well referenced.

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Well referenced.

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Another of Ealdgyth's Bishops becomes a GA. Congratulations on another well research & well referenced medieval cleric article. Pyrotec (talk) 17:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dates[edit]

Just wondering: how can Cynesige dedicate Waltham Abbey around 3 May 1060 if he died on 20 January? Five months make a pretty big "around" to me. Ælfgar (talk) 06:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty simple, somewhere along the line, the month of his death got changed - it should have been December 1060, not January. Fixed. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Now I can finish translating the article for the French Wikipedia.

Ælfgar (talk) 14:38, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another detail: according to Alex Woolf, the two bishops of Glasgow consecrated by Cynesige were Magsuen and John, not John and Michael; indeed, Michael's dates (fl. 1109 x 1114) do not seem to make him a contemporary of Cynesige. Ælfgar (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed - no clue how that got corrupted.... Ealdgyth - Talk 17:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dates, the sequel[edit]

I changed the date of death of archbishop Cynesige to 22 December. The date stated in citation "Fryde, et al. Handbook of British Chronology p. 224" was quoted incorrectly. You can find the actual book here.
Moreover performing a book google on 'died 22 december 1060 bishop' results in an extensive list of books all stating the date of death of Cynesige being December 22nd:
book google 22 december
I even went so far as to google 'died 20 december 1060 bishop' but this results in nonsense:
book google 20 december

Some more references on this topic:
^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5] ^[6] ^[7]

Cheers, Mill 1 (talk) 11:25, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ David Charles Douglas. English historical documents, Volume 2, p. 139. E. Methuen, 1981 . ISBN: 0413325008, 9780413325006
^ Christopher Harper-Bill. Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1995, p. 130. Boydell & Brewer Ltd, 1996. ISBN: 0851156665, 9780851156668
^ Richard Fletcher (2004). Bloodfeud: Murder and Revenge in Anglo-Saxon England, p. 207. Oxford University Press, 2004. ISBN: 0195179447, 9780195179446
^ Christopher Harper-Bill (1855). History and topography of the city of York; the Ainsty wapentake; and the East riding of Yorkshire, by J.J. Sheahan and T. Whellan, p. 393. Oxford University
^ David Charles Douglas, George William Greenaway. English Historical Documents, 1042-1189, p. 134. Psychology Press, 1996. ISBN: 0415143675, 9780415143677
^ William Henry Dixon. Fasti Eboracenses: Lives of the Archbishops of York, Volume 1, p. 137. Longman, Green, Longman, and Roberts, 1863.
^ Anon. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, p. 190. Read Books Ltd, 2013. ISBN: 1447496027, 9781447496021

[1] David Charles Douglas. English historical documents, Volume 2, p. 139. E. Methuen, 1981 . ISBN: 0413325008, 9780413325006

[2] Christopher Harper-Bill. Proceedings of the Battle Conference 1995, p. 130. Boydell & Brewer Ltd, 1996. ISBN: 0851156665, 9780851156668

[3] Richard Fletcher (2004). Bloodfeud: Murder and Revenge in Anglo-Saxon England, p. 207. Oxford University Press, 2004. ISBN: 0195179447, 9780195179446

[4] Christopher Harper-Bill (1855). History and topography of the city of York; the Ainsty wapentake; and the East riding of Yorkshire, by J.J. Sheahan and T. Whellan, p. 393. Oxford University

[5] David Charles Douglas, George William Greenaway. English Historical Documents, 1042-1189, p. 134. Psychology Press, 1996. ISBN: 0415143675, 9780415143677

[6] William Henry Dixon. Fasti Eboracenses: Lives of the Archbishops of York, Volume 1, p. 137. Longman, Green, Longman, and Roberts, 1863.

[7] Anon. The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle, p. 190. Read Books Ltd, 2013. ISBN: 1447496027, 9781447496021

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