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Some Reliable News Sources[edit]

Hello fellow editors of this page, I would like to thank you all for your contributions to the draft. I have worked hard creating a list of some news sources of areas so that Yasa may impact. Using these sources we can retrieve information we need for the article. Here they are...

Fiji

Vanuatu

Vanuatu Daily Post https://dailypost.vu/

New Zealand

There are also many other reliable sources around the world and this list is just some suggestions. Have a great day!Robloxsupersuperhappyface (talk)

Category 5 Cyclone[edit]

I think Yasa is supposed to be 157mph in wind speeds, because it rounds to 155 making it a Category 4 Cyclone, but it's actually a Category 5 Cyclone according to the SSHWS. Can anyone fix this? 2003 LN6 (talk) 19:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As things stand the JTWC estimate for 18z is 135 kts, which means that it is a Cat 4 on the SSHWS. Incidentally the Nadi estimate for 18z is also 135 kts.Jason Rees (talk) 20:00, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can't believe this, that the cyclone became the fourth intense and the most intense of 2020. Imagine if it was named Yolanda (that also to be precise, the replacement of Yasa). Beraniladri19🌀🌀 (talk) 03:02, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Date format[edit]

The Fiji RSMC is displaying DDMMYY. Date format by country lists Fiji with DDMMYY, as does all neighbouring countries. Should the article be writing '16 December' for example? Or am I missing something. The season article is using the same format as this article...--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 20:21, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you look closely Nadi uses both MDY and DMY in their products and personally I don't see what the big problem with writing in MDY is.Jason Rees (talk) 20:43, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because MDY is incorrect usage in Fiji. And Fiji news sites use DMY as well.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, habitually putting MDY makes this article US-centric.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Look, Fiji uses both formats. And since they don't really have a preference for either one of those formats, there's nothing wrong with writing this article, or any of the articles for other SPAC storms, in a MDY format. Keep in mind that the U.S. has maintained a presence in Fiji for a good portion of 20th century. There are other countries out there that use American English, or a similar variant, as their own version of English. Take the Philippines for example. Writing an article in a MDY does not necessarily skew it towards an American-centric bias. The US has essentially dominated the world since the end of World War II, even though other countries still use their own systems. What, should we strike out the usage of the MDY formatting on any articles not specifically centered on the U.S.? I don't think so. This kind of proposal is counterproductive. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 21:26, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fiji was a former British colony. Point to me where in the history where USA dominated Fiji? The Philippines is not part of the SPAC so the comparison is poor. Yes absolutely with the last question, per the Australian region season article. In addition, the neighbouring nations use DMY and British English too.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 01:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The U.S. maintained a consular presence in Fiji for years. You don't have to rule over a country in order to exert influence. That's beside the point. Anyhow, Fiji does not have a preference for either MDY or DMY. In fact, they use both quite often. In relation to tropical cyclone advisories, have a look at these sites [1][2]. And we're not going to be changing the dating format on other articles, especially ones that are in a completely different topic. You don't have the standing to even attempt such an endeavor either. So I think that you should drop it. This is becoming a waste of time. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:49, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And? Fiji was a British colony. I see on that site FBC News using DMY. No I will not drop it if your arguments aren't compelling enough. Your comments are a waste of time too. Had a look at Date format by country article yet?--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 01:55, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming you did not look at the second citation which is using MDY...? Also, using an Wikipedia article instead of an actual Fiji website to make your argument is questionable. Hurricaneboy23 (page) * (talk) 02:00, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The website probably is loosely using the date format without much care. Most of the news sites use DMY. I see on the passports that they use DMY. Actually, I see many of the news sites change their date format repeatedly, sometimes as YMD as well.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 02:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello everyone, we use both formats. We preferably use DMY in our education system and in news sites, they use MDY (I don't know about other organisations). As mentioned, FMS too uses both. KRtau16 (talk) 02:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 02:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CyclonicallyDeranged, Besides, FijiVillage and Fiji Sun uses DMY whereas FBC uses MDY. Basically we're using all formats. LOL. KRtau16 (talk) 02:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

100% right! As does https://www.fiji.gov.fj --CyclonicallyDeranged (talk) 02:29, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This happens when a small country is influenced by the Western world. Same thing with English, we use both (American and British). KRtau16 (talk) 02:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How is Yasa stronger than Goni????[edit]

Alright, could someone please explain this to me: How is it possible that Yasa is stronger than Goni? Goni was identified as the strongest landfalling tropical cyclone on record and on Zoom Earth it shows peak pressure of 195mph winds and 884 mb pressure. ^[1] However on Tropical cyclones in 2020 Yasa is believed to be the strongest in 2020, and in Zoom Earth shows peak winds of 160mph and 914 mb pressure.^[2] I know that Zoom Earth uses JTWC data so it's probably F13 data, but which should I believe??? AwesomeHurricaneBoss (talk) 17:23, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AwesomeHurricaneBoss: We use official RSMC data, the JMA for Goni, and the FMS for Yasa. -Shift674-🌀^contribs 19:20, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yasa being the strongest tropical cyclone of 2020 is backed up by the FMS.Jason Rees (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Goni is now the most strongest storm in 2020[edit]

Goni is now the most intense in 2020 because Yasa lowered by FMS. Daniel boxs (talk) 23:46, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://zoom.earth/storms/goni-2020

[2] ttps://zoom.earth/storms/yasa-2021

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