Talk:Cyclone-class patrol ship

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They're back[edit]

My sourcing says they're coming back to serve in Iran's Gulf.

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=2000&ct=4 In 2009, the ships began a sustainment program to update their ships communication, engineering and support systems.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2012/03/mil-120316-afps05.htm There are five patrol craft in the United States, three more coming back to the Navy from the Coast Guard and five in the Persian Gulf, Greenert said “I want to move toward upgrading the PCs in the United States with Gatling guns and put them in Bahrain, ultimately, and we’ll have 10 [in the Gulf],” the admiral said. Within a year, most of the capabilities will be in place in region, he said.

So update? Hcobb (talk) 04:53, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

predecessor - pb mk iii "swiftboats"[edit]

Maybe the article should link the cyclone's predecessor, the Patrol Craft Fast. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.60.130.58 (talk) 17:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Boat or Ship?[edit]

So are these boats or ships? The first line of the description says "The Cyclone-class patrol ships are a class of United States Navy coastal patrol boats." And also the Section "Development and design" "The program was stopped at 14 boats, however, as it was realised that the PC was too large for the SEAL delivery role." The description is vague and ambiguous.Joedumlao (talk) 19:48, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it can be either, as long as the article is consistent with the usage of one over the other. Whichever one is used will likely depend on linked articles or quotes from sources. If both must be used, it should probably be noted that both can be used interchangeably. IMHO - wolf 10:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decommissioning dates[edit]

The two refs don't actually disagree - the Seapower ref. (definitely a high quality, specialist source, says that all the relevant ships (including the 3 Cyclones, but also including other ships, including two LCSs) will be decommissioned by 31 March, while the News4JAX (which appears to be a RS, if more local and less specialist) just talks about the three Cyclones and says they will be decommissioned on 14 January. Note that the News4Jax source is dated 16 November this year while the Seapower is dated 6 July, so the later source may reflect later, more specific information.Nigel Ish (talk) 11:46, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Official Facebook pages associated with two of the ships (USS Zephyer and USS Shamal) have posts for the decommissioning ceremony for former crew to request for official invitations on those dates. (https://www.facebook.com/USSZEPHYR/posts/4117028908312304, https://www.facebook.com/USSShamal/posts/1509496096105371). USS Shamal appears to be 13 January 2021. LionFlyer (talk) 12:18, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps keep both sources as simply state the boats will be decommissioned in early 2021, for now. Surely as the new year arrives, more sources will give a specific, confirmed date. But the edits I reverted, as they were, conflicted with other articles. - wolf 00:37, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe use the Seapower ref for the general body of the article - in the operational history - something like - "Three of the Cyclones were planned to be decommissioned by the end FY20-21 as part of a programme of force reduction (i.e. giving the context), while use the News4JAX and the specific date (again - stating that this is a programmed date) in the ships table?Nigel Ish (talk) 11:48, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's works. Again, my only concern was swapping out one good ref for another and conflicting info across multiple articles. Cheers. - wolf 17:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]