Talk:Cupid & Psyche 85

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Studios?[edit]

How many studio was that?? It's hard to tell from the layout in the infobox. Any split of tracks between studios? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Martinevans123: nope, that's all the information that's given on the sleeve notes, and it's just as confusing on there, as the studios are listed in a string along one line of text. I suspect that as detailed in the article text, the album's oldest tracks, like "Wood Beez" and "Small Talk", were recorded with Arif Mardin in NYC, and the rest back in London, but that's pure guesswork on my part. I had a good look through the music press to find information about the recording details for the album after the initial sessions, but I came up blank. Richard3120 (talk) 11:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, same here. I agree about the sleeve notes! I was prompted to ask here after seeing no studio listed for Perfect Way. Thanks, anyway. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:34, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The sleeve notes also state, "Additional tape editing: Bunt Stafford-Clark (Townhouse Studios)" - just to throw another studio in there! I also see that the notes state that Arif Mardin was involved with "Absolute", "Don't Work That Hard" and "Wood Beez", but not "Small Talk". PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 18:21, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes indeed, and it was me who originally added that information... I've just done OR on my own research... Richard3120 (talk) 19:08, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good heavens, Paley! You're actually still alive! Martinevans123 (talk) 20:02, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen the album credits in over 32 years, but I know personally that a lot of the album was recorded at the Ebn Ozn studio in NYC, Sundragon Recording Studios, and at least one of the engineers there was Ken Fink (previously known as new wave/punk musician Nek Fink), they had a fully updated Fairlight CMI Series IIX, and none of those other listed studios did.66.245.201.46 (talk) 09:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sales[edit]

100,000 in the UK, but how many sold in the US, and worldwide? Where does one find such information? I've been searching for years. Fp cassini (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it's very unlikely that such data exists, for this record or for any album or single before the 1990s. Not a single country in the world tracked sales at source before the 1990s: the USA started in 1991 when Nielsen took over the data collection of the Billboard charts, and the UK started in May 1994 when Millward Brown took over the charts from Gallup. Any sales figures you see before the 90s are estimates from the record companies, based on their shipments... this is why most countries used to base certifications on shipments from the company's warehouse to the record stores, which could be audited and tracked, rather than actual sales from the stores to the customers - sales were only registered for a small representative sample of record stores, and then scaled up to obtain a "total sales" figure for the whole country. This assumes that the sample was representative, that it wasn't manipulated by stores or record companies to boost the sales of their act (which did happen), and in addition sales often weren't collected over Christmas and New Year because of the lack of postal service, this missing out sales over the busiest sales period. And that's just in countries with established charts... I would imagine that most sales in Asia and Latin America during the 70s and 80s were on pirate cassettes and CDs sold on the street, which wouldn't have been counted. This is why there is still so much debate about worldwide sales figures for even the biggest acts from the pre-computer era, like the Beatles, Elvis Presley and Abba... so much of their sales figures outside of North America and the major European countries is pure conjecture. Richard3120 (talk) 21:54, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for this info! Fp cassini (talk) 14:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC) Fp Cassini[reply]