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Coronation Street overseas

This section is very good, but it really needs some references from reliable sources. I can find one or two on websites and in some print references, but any help would be massively welcome! Ben 13:53, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Coronation Street is now currently shown on Dutch TV SBS6 at around 230pm in the afternoon - not sure where they are up to yet, as I have not had a chance to see it!62.254.3.224 (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Featured article

I think that this article is almost back up to featured article standard. A few more citations are required in places (particularly Coronation Street overseas and broadcast format). Later sections may also need to be reviewed, which I am happy to get on with when I find the time. What do others think about a possible F/A nomination? Ben 00:38, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I've been watching the progress of this article with interest in recent weeks, mostly in preparation to record a spoken version. In my opinion, it's time to nominate it: you have done an excellent job in improving all aspects of the article. In particular, for an article about a programme which is still in existence today, it is good to see that equal prominence has been given to the "old days" and more recent times: each of the five decade sections are of a very similar length and structure. I have not attempted to edit the article at all so far because, unlike you, I lack the relevant published sources (apart from 40 Years of Coronation Street by Daran Little); but if it goes for -nomination and any issues are raised, I shall try to offer some help in resolving them in order to get it back to the status we both feel this excellent programme deserves. Leave a message on my talk page if you would like me to look at anything or help in any way. PS. I will probably have a go at finishing the spoken article this weekend. If any substantial edits are subsequently made to the article to get it to , I would re-record the relevant bits later. Hassocks5489 13:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your comments. The only real major change will probably be in the opening parts of 1960s:kitchen-sink drama. At the moment most of the content is unsourced as it has remained in the article for a long time. Hopefully I will be able to try and find citations for the content, if not it may require tweaking here and there. I don't think that there is anything else all that major to be done, apart from consolidating some of the later sections, especially production staff. Any help would be gratefully accepted, I'm sure that there is a lot of information in the 40 Years of Coronation Street book about production staff over the years. Ben 20:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Spoken version added

I have added a spoken version of this article; see the link at the top. Hassocks5489 22:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Well done, Hassocks! Very well done with the spoken version, brilliant! Ben 22:53, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Hilda Ogden

Fourth most recognisable woman after four people, this obviously makes her fifth, which is incorrect, the position she holds or one of the people preceeding her? Matt Zero 18:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Try rereading the section in question. BenC533 22:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Saying that doesn't really explain your point, no matter how many times I read it, there are four recognisable women behind which comes hilda ogden, making her fifth...Matt Zero 11:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

I understand what you've done, I was just being a bit tongue in cheek. The correct title, as far as I am aware for the Queen Mother is 'Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother' so you've just counted 'Queen Elizabeth' as being a person in her own right, strange considering that the entire phrase 'Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother' hyperlinks to a single article. BenC533 21:00, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Story line and storyline

Browsing through the article I see that the generally used 'storyline' has been changed to read 'story line'. According to the OED Online, the noun 'storyline' is to be used in reference to 'the plot of a novel, play, film, etc.'. I have reverted as much as possible, but not sure if I've caught them all. If anyone spots one, could you please edit? Thanks! BenC533 03:55, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

New character articles

I think these new minor character articles which are getting created is getting a bit silly now. With Emmerdale, a decision was made to create the article List of recurring and minor Emmerdale characters, which effectively elimiates the need to create an article for every small person who arrives or who is present, when the information is only relatively small. I'd propose an article of a similar nature being created for Coronation Street? The one for Emmerdale has been effective and could easily work with this soap. I believe this approach is used on various other television shows where there are manu small characters. Bungle44 10:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I fail to agree ^DAVID _CAT 19:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Whilst you're entitled to an opinion, I can't personally accept or understand it if no reason in any shape or form is given to explain your viewpoint, especially when a sub-system of my suggestion is now used on this very template to split the recurring characters from the main ones. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Due to developments in the last few months about Character articles, I suspect that it would be a waste of time creating more articles, esp. about minor characters. They would eventually be deleted (or 'redirected') but only once they've watched you waste your time. That's the kick. Bungle's suggestion is sensible. The JPS^{talk to me} 23:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

But how would we differentiate between a minor character and a main character who has only just appeared?^DAVID _CAT 20:27, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

95% of the time, a character joining a soap who is in it for a long term (as a regular) will likely be publicised as such. As I said, it has worked fine for Emmerdale for the past few months, so there is no reason why it can't for Coronation Street (it'd certainly tidy the whole character article situation up a bit). Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I was the one who created the current "Recurring Characters" section, I think it would be a good idea to merge the current "Recurring characters" section into one page Ant parker 22:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Fine, have your minor characters article as long as it doesn't have that godawful situation of a section with "main article: so and so" at the top. ^DAVID _CAT 22:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

"as it doesn't have that godawful situation of a section with "main article: so and so" at the top" - Well, it makes sense to point people in the direction of the parent article..

I have gone ahead and made this article in response to the majority support comments noted above. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Why have u turned them into minor characters, when they r major characters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.88 (talk) 00:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

This was discussed a few weeks ago in an AfD. The majority vote was to merge short-standing characters as minor ones until they have gained a sizeable history on the show. Don't revert changes to the template without discussion. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:16, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Theme music

The theme music section lists the instruments as cornet, clarinet and double bass. David Browning is then credited with playing trumpet. Should he properly be credited with playing cornet instead? -88.109.76.231 12:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I believe David Browning may have actually played trumpet rather than cornet on the original recording, however I am unsure. David's trumpet playing produces a "rounder" tone compared to some other trumpet players, and could be confused with cornet [I knew David for some time in the 90's]. Roaringmouse 23:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding my above entry, here is a link that suggests that David Browning did play trumpet on the recording of the theme Roaringmouse 23:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

So, the Manchester Evening News (incorporating Wilmslow Express, see Roaringmouse's link above; apparently republished in the Daily Express) states that it was David Browning. However, this is disputed in the comments on that page, where two contributors state that they believe it was Ronnie Hunt. Ron Simmonds (jazz musician and journalist who died 24 October 2005) wrote in 1994 on Jazz Professional that it was Ronnie Hunt:

Stan Roderick sent Ronnie [Hunt] to deputise for him on a session one day, which turned out to be the record­ing of the signature tune for Coronation Street.

Both Browing and Hunt are stated to have played other TV theme tunes; it appears that both made a claim to this most famous theme. The main article here says, with a ref, that the theme has been altered slightly since the show's debut in 1960. The MEN articles seem to mean that Browning, who was a regular for Granada, recorded the original in 1960, and state clearly that he re-recorded the current version in 1964. Do any of the books cited in the article provide a definitive ID for the trumpeter? - Fayenatic (talk) 19:07, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

There was once an article for Browning, but it was deleted as an attack page. I looked at it, and no version of it contained any useful information whatsoever. DGG (talk) 20:55, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

The Musician's Union in London has verified that Ronnie Hunt is the Trumpeter and that Ronnie has been receiving the standard union royalty payments over the past 40 + years since the airing commenced in 1964. Ronnie also states in a signed affidavit that he is the trumpeter and he nor anyone else involved has ever heard of David Browning. Stan Roderick made a subsequent recording but, Granada stayed with the original performed by Ronnie Hunt and it continues to play today. Can any experts help me to upload the letter from the Musicians Union official representative? I can fax the letter to the appropriate expert. Monika London (talk) 18:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

There is a dispute with The Manchester Evening Standard and the Daily Express inwhich a retraction of the entire David Browning story is being demanded. It has become evident that David Browning is using Ronnie Hunt's resume. Investigation into the matter has exposed that it appeared that ALL of the Granada musicians of that era had passed on, except, Ronnie is still living in Surrey at this time. Ronnie Hunt performed the cornet piece in 1960 just before going on aire in 1964 a second recording of the piece was made by Stan Roderick, however, the producers stayed with the original piece and no changes to that have ever been made, not even a slight modification.Monika London (talk) 19:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Resolved at last by the Mail on Sunday, 21 June 2009. Thankfully, findarticles.com archives that newspaper. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Richard Hillman

Hi, can any experts on here advise which version of this is correct, please? TerriersFan (talk) 17:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

It was both! It was a joint party--Jtomlin1uk (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

New WikiProject for Coronation Street

A new WikiProject has been created for the soap here. Everyone is encouraged to enter their name for participation in an effort to clean and tidy up what over time has become a large mess of articles, both in articles that exist for the soap, and the sub-standard quality many are at. Hopefully, we can create some sort of organisation. Bungle ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Spoilers for Canadians

There are a couple of spoilers for Canadian viewers, who see the show nine months behind. Oughtn't there be a little warning there? Pday2 (talk) 21:08, 14 January 2008

This may explain why we no longer have Spoiler warnings in Wikipedia. - Fayenatic (talk) 19:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Houses and Businesses in Weatherfield

I've noticed both Eastenders and Emmerdale's Articles have a seperate article on Albert Square and Emmerdale Village respectivly, why can't the same be done for Weatherfield - a year by year would be useful for an encyclopedia. Pday2 (talk) 21:15, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

• I agree, it would be a good idea (EE has many different articles for different properties too Ant parker (talk) 23:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix and Coro

Wasn't Jimi Hendrix a fan? I understand he liked to watch it on his (rare) days off and didn't like to be disturbed while it was on. maccbMaccb (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Characters

Why are a lot of the major characters put in with the minor characters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.31.67 (talk) 17:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

History

Do you think the history section (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s) should be moved to its own separate page? That way the section could be expanded (like mentioning more of the major arrivals and departures) without bloating the show page. --JamesB3 (talk) 00:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "littlepg10" :
  • Little. (2000) p.10. Note: both Kershaw and Little make errors in relating the early transmission of the programme. The information here is taken from broadcast details in contemporary editions of ''The Times'' and ''TV Times''.
  • Little. (2000) p.10.

DumZiBoT (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Templates changed?

Why have all the characters templates changed, it looks bad and isn't as efficient for information

Alex250P 21:54 12th October 2008 (UTC)

List of episodes

Would anyone have a problem if I made a list of episodes? ;) 70.50.220.48 (talk) 00:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Ratings

Lets find all the information about rating that we can to make this article more complete! --Cooly123 (talk) 14:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Longest Running

But Blue Peter first aired in 1958 according to it's page. Two years before Coronation Street. They can't both be the longest-running on UK TV! 82.34.94.95 (talk) 15:05, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Original airing date inconsistency

The beginning of the article claims it was first broadcast once a week on Mondays. Later in the article it says it was first broadcast twice a week on Wednesdays and Fridays. Could this be cleared up? 79.70.231.22 (talk) 20:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Scheduling

Scheduling

For 48 years, Coronation Street has remained at the centre of ITV's prime time schedule. The programme is currently shown in Great Britain in five episodes, over three evenings a week on the ITV Network. and is better tan eastenders

Someone appears to have appended a badly-spelled, personal comment to this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.121.243.56 (talk) 04:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Deirdre Barlow

Unsubstantiated runour about Anne Kirkbride leaving the show was removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blanche Hunt (talk • contribs) 00:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

2000's section

Okay, now we have left the 2000's behind, I think we should trim down the section to a similar size as the others (cut out uneeded explainations of minor storylines) it would make the main page look a lot more balanced Ant parker (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Longest running series in the world

I double checked my facts on this. Once As the World Turns ends this fall, as far as English-language shows go, Corry will be the longest-running dramatic series still on the air. I know someone might say Hallmark Hall of Fame, but that's not a television series, but rather an irregularly scheduled program of specials that some Wikipedia A-types have decided to call a TV series. Corry's nearest competitor is General Hospital (1963). Anyway, if someone wants to add a citation to what I wrote, feel free. I don't consider this to be original research because it's obvious from looking at the historical record (OR is information no one else has ever come up with before). 68.146.81.123 (talk) 16:39, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Another thing to consider on this topic. For much of its run Coronation Street produced just two 30 minute episodes each week. It later added 30 minute episodes to the schedule, and I believe that today it produces five 30 minute episodes each week. General Hospital might not have been running as long in calendar terms, but certainly has more hours in the can. I suspect As the World Turns has more hours in the can too. GH and ATWT have always been at a rate of five episodes a week, and have been transmitting five hours a week for decades. Format (talk) 18:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

That's irrelevant. The claim refers to how long the show has been on air, not how many episodes have been made. Smurfmeister (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll discuss what I darn well like. Better to increase and expand ideas and think of other angles rather than remain close-minded and keep one's head in the sand. Format (talk) 07:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

No the number of episodes is important, because it demonstrates the amount of the soap that has been produced and is associated with a series longevity. The article however does not make it clear that corry is not the longest running soap that is being currently broadcast but it is the longest running soap on TV. The archers on BBC radio 4 was piloted in 1950 and broadcast regularly since 1951 beating corry by about 10 years. Does any one mind this pedantic correction to the article being made? (Andy-the-hof (talk) 00:42, 11 December 2010 (UTC))

It isn't even 'pedantic', just a simple fact. This article suggests in a couple of places that Corrie is the longest running soap, yet US serial Guiding Light debuted on radio in 1937 and on television on June 30, 1952 and ran on TV for 57 years until its 2009 cancellation. And, since GL ran at a rate of five episodes a week its entire run (15 minute duration, then 30 minutes, later one hour) it not only has more episodes in the can than Corrie, but also more actual footage in the can. For the record GL episodes were 15 minutes (1937–1968), 30 minutes (1968–1977), 60 minutes (1977–2009). Even when GL ran 15 minute episodes, it was still broadcasting more footage a week than Corrie which only produced one hour a week. Corrie didn't start increaing its weekly output until 1989 by which time GL was long putting out five hours a week. Format (talk) 04:04, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

What relevance does it have in this article? All that technical guff belongs in Guiding Light, not here. All we need is a simple reference to the fact that it has recently become the longest-running TV soap currently on air, and we have that. Ooh, Fruity @ Ooh, Chatty 11:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

None of those statistics have direct relevance to this article and I never said they should be added to the article. They are relevant to this issue, that is being discussed, on this talk page. This Coronation Street article currently gives misleading information - it was previously corrected, but the correction was reverted [1]. As you yourself suggested, why not correct it, again? Format (talk) 18:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I removed the "correction" in that diff because according to the source, Coronation Street was named "the world's longest-running television soap opera" not "the world's longest-running television soap opera currently on the air worldwide." If you have a reference to the contrary then please add it. Wikipedia coverage relies on verifiability, not truth, and the "correction" in that diff constituted original research. Frickative 18:41, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

History and Characters swap

I've swapped these sections so that History comes first; without some background of the show, there is no context for the Characters section. I have not removed any content. Smurfmeister (talk) 14:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Now showing 3 nights a week in New Zealand

Coro now plays 3 hours worth every week. 3 one hour episodes on tues, thurs, fri. This section needs updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.89.59.111 (talk) 07:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

That happens twice a year, it's called "Coro Catch-up" - or some such by TVNZ. Most of the time time Corrie is broadcast as two 30 min episodes back-to-back, twice a week (4 episodes total per week), meaning NZ scheduling falls further behind UK scheduling of 5 episodes per week. In order to keep NZ schedules from falling too far behind the UK TVNZ broadcasts 6 episodes per week in the Summer and Winter schedules. Fanx (talk) 04:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Samia Ghadie

Just curious. Why is Samia Ghadie not included in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegrapher52 (talk • contribs) 07:30, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I see Samia Ghadie accredited on the web as one of the actors associated with Coronation Street. But I do not see her listed in the wiki article. Has she been overlooked?

I see Samia Ghadie accredited on the web as one of the actors associated with Coronation Street. But I do not see her listed in the wiki article. Has she been overlooked? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegrapher52 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

She got married, changed her name to Samia Smith. Digifiend (talk) 17:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

WP:SPOILERS

Please remember that spoilers are not allowed on Wikipedia. I've just deleted an entire section which mentioned future storylines revealed by Inside Soap magazine. The unregistered editor who added that needs to read WP:SPOILERS. Digifiend (talk) 03:55, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I think you are mistaken and need to check WP:SPOILERS. WP does allow, and does contain spoilers. It does not contain spoiler warnings. Format (talk) 08:31, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

There's a annoying recent trend in unregistered users just adding trivial storyline information all round. If soaps pages did this, they would run to thousands of paragraphs. Notable storylines should be mentioned, retrospectively, but adding every last blink, trip and pint should be discouraged. The tabloids and celeb websites do this job perfectly well. It undermines Wikipedia as a reference source. Hardylane (talk) 10:23, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I believe WP:SPOILERS refers to films that have been released at the cinema/episodes that have aired on TV. Spoiling unaired episodes is hugely unfair on Wikipedia editors who do not wish to know this information. Once it's aired, then it's fair game, but not until then. AnemoneProjectors 19:57, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The policy isn't specific on unaired storylines. Fairness doesn't really come in to it. Personally I do not see any reason why unaired storylines need to be in WP. It is not really encyclopedic and is not really necesary to illustrate the topic. Format (talk) 20:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Further to my comment above: I checked the edit history and the revealed storylines are paradoxically re-runs of previous storylines already seen on The Street. More reason why revealing them is pointless: it doesn't really illustrate anything new about the storylines - except maybe that they can be repetitive, but then most people already know that of soaps. Format (talk) 20:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers are as I understand it are presently allowed. I replaced one earlier today and I see it has been overturned, I am quite happy to support the editors experienced in this field and fully accept your localized position, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 20:47, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I've asked on the WP:SPOILERS talk page. My assumption may have been wrong but I still think it's very unfair as it hasn't aired and is a major storyline. AnemoneProjectors 20:53, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, it's one way to go and I am happy to agree, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 20:57, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I've just been informed that the deaths that have been revealed aren't the "real" victims and all will be revealed on the live episode. AnemoneProjectors 21:29, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Thats great, so its not spoiled for us, cool. Off2riorob (talk) 21:41, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I hope not, but apparently if a future storyline can be verified then it's ok to add it. I will continue to remove them from character articles though. Most people don't cite sources anyway. AnemoneProjectors 23:51, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

The only way to "verify" storylines is to watch the programme on transmission. Anything else is either press office fluff, fan speculation or red herrings. I don't think "revelations" have any place in Wikipedia. Hardylane (talk) 21:30, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone verify this?

I just came across this article and remember that a year or two ago I was told an interesting fact about Corry. It's very vague now because I cannot remember what episode it was referring to, but it was one of the big ones that millions had tuned in to (along the lines of the 16+ million viewers tuning in to Eastenders on the 25th anniversary to see who Archies killer was.) During the ad break, there was an electricity surge across Britain and Ireland. This was in fact due to the amount of kettles being boiled during the ad-break to make tea/coffee etc. I cannot find a reference for this (I am still looking) but if anyone else has heard of this and can verify it, could you please add it in. On the other hand if someone knows/finds out that this is just a sort of 'urban legend' could you please tell me ? :) Dylan (talk) 13:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

This is one I've found, but to read the full article you have to join the site. Will the part that you can read without joining be enough ? Dylan (talk) 13:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

It happens every time Corrie has an ad-break. It's a well-known fact. However, it is also completely irrelevant to Coronation Street as a programme, which is what this article is about. Hardylane (talk) 15:47, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Well I did realise that the article was about Coronation Street, well done. I just thought it was an interesting piece of trivia about the show. Dylan (talk) 22:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

It is an interesting fact, although im sure they say the same thing about just before the start or end of eastenders too. BritishWatcher (talk) 00:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

That incident did get some media attention [2], Daily Mail , BBC. I wouldnt object to it being mentioned somewhere if its a brief 1 line mention. Although i see it has happened on other occasions too Daily Mail on Ken/Deirdres wedding and considering these are not the most watched episodes, it is questionable if its notable enough because it most of happened on the shows watched by millions more people. BritishWatcher (talk) 00:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Quite. If you think the kettle phenomenon is remotely a big deal now, you're dead wrong. Imagine back in the 70's when kettle used more power, and 25 million watched programmes regularly. Now THAT would be a surge and a half. Today's effects would hardly cause a blip. It really isn't relevant to a page about a soap opera, and perhaps belongs on a page about television itself. Hardylane (talk) 05:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Well then would it be a good idea to mention the power surge as a whole rather then the one incident I was referring to? Just a small piece stating that The show is cause of many power surges due to kettle use during ad breaks or something along those lines. Dylan (talk) 17:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not specific to Coronation Street, so why put it here Hardylane (talk) 17:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

A small mention in the ratings section would be appropriate in my opinion. Dylan (talk) 22:23, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Of course "in your opinion", but you need to think it through. There's a surge on EVERY commercial break, therefore it is not unique to Coronation Street, and as such, should not be included in THIS article. This trivial point has gone on long enough now, so I'll just state my opposition again and that's the end of it. Hardylane (talk) 14:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ratings

The ratings section has been tagged since feb this year as needing more sources. One line in that says.. "Most episodes in the 1960, 70s, and 80s rated with over 20 million viewers and during the 90s and early 2000s 15–20 million per episode would be typical." The point about over 20 million viewers in the 60s, 70s and 80s seems to go against the facts at List_of_most-watched_television_broadcasts#Most-watched_episodes. Which lists just 2 coronation street episodes getting 20 million+ views. Also i notice that table says Alan Bradley killed by tram episode got a higher viewing figure than when Hilda Ogden left the street. Not sure which figures are correct but the section needs checking and some of the unsourced stuff being deleted if no sources can be found. BritishWatcher (talk) 00:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Series run / Longevity

Article currently states that Coronation Street is the world's longest running series. Of course, it is only the world's longest currently-running series. US serial Guiding Light debuted on CBS Television on June 30, 1952 and ran for 57 years until its 2009 cancellation. So Guiding Light is the longest running series really, and Corrie wont break that record for another seven years. Should the article be changed to clarify this? Format (talk) 04:25, 14 October 2010 (UTC)