Talk:Corliss Lamont

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Relation to Ned Lamont[edit]

The article is presently oscillating between grandson and grandnephew as Ned Lamont's relation to Corliss Lamont. This blog says first he was a grandson (09:30 August 7), then corrected itself to grand nephew at 1:30 pm. on August 8. Without a reliable source, it is difficult to tell which version is correct. --Blainster 04:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This Washington Post article (PDF format) from April 30, posted on Ned Lamont's campaign site, says only that "his family tree includes Corliss Lamont", not very specific. --Blainster 04:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Harvard Crimson (his alma mater) says Ned is his grand nephew, and this Daily Kos chat at which Ned Lamont was present says the same, so that should settle it. --Blainster 08:34, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NYT here says great-uncle. This is the family tree:

Thomas W.
- Thomas Stilwell (first son of Thomas W., married a Miner)
  - Edward Miner Sr.
    - Edward Miner Jr. (Ned)
- Corliss (second son of Thomas W.)
  - 4 kids: Hayes, Margaret, Florence, Anne

I haven't found a single RS that has him as the grandson, just blogs. --Dhartung | Talk 19:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corliss Lamont (March 28, 1902–April 26, 1995), was a humanist philosopher and civil liberties advocate, and the grandfather (see [1]) of 2006 Democratic Party nominee for the United States Senate from Connecticut, Ned Lamont.

When I clicked on the source that states that he is Ned Lamont's grandfather, the blog says it corrected itself from father -> grandfather after seeing Wikipedia article, which states that he is Ned Lamont's grandfather. Not a good source, is it? mirageinred 17:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blogs are not reliable, no matter how many one consults. We prefer to stick with the New York Times, the Harvard Crimson (Ned's alma mater), and Ned Lamont himself—see the discussion above. --Blainster 21:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Civil liberties[edit]

The civil liberties were to be reserved for Western people - extermination of people in the Soviet Union was O.K..[1]. "shameful anti-Soviet agitation" - about protests after the death of Wiktor Alter and Henryk Ehrlich in a Soviet prison. Xx234 (talk) 12:21, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lamont certainly defended much of what the USSR did under Stalin, but he never held that "civil liberties were to be reserved for Western people." He used the words "shameful anti-Soviet agitation" (as the link shows) based on his belief that the Alter-Ehrlich case was being exploited for ulterior motives unrelated to the innocence or guilt of the accused. As for his attitude toward civil liberties in the East, he wrote that he did not wish to "negate the fact that the administration of justice in the Soviet Union has been biased and harsh towards those considered enemies of the socialist state; that the Soviet authorities, relying on an omnipresent secret police, have jailed tens of thousands of blameless individuals in their periodic purges; and that Soviet prisons and labor camps have frequently failed to maintain decent and healthy conditions. . . . Persons like myself, who believe firmly in the Western ideals of individual liberty and the toleration of dissent, often as these ideals have been thwarted or betrayed in the West, have the obligation to continue our criticism of Soviet institutions insofar as they do not measure up to true democratic standards." (Soviet Civilization, 1952, pp. 88-89) --Ismail (talk) 22:29, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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