Talk:Conifer cone

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Shouldn't the title be singular, as in "Conifer cone"? I would have moved it, but there is already a redirect at "Conifer cone". However, this should redirect there, not as it is. I just don't know how to move it without misplacing the edit history. --DanielCD 18:06, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It should really be, yes, but I've always felt it is more bother to move than it is worth, as the page is only ever linked in a piped link as [[conifer cones|cone]] (since cone inevitably has to be a disambig page) - MPF 10:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Immature photo ?[edit]

In the article : "The photo (right) shows mature male pine cones shortly after pollen release." Title of the picture : "Pine cones, immature male.jpg" I don't know which is right.

They are mature, after pollen release; note how the scales are open and dried-out. For comparison with immature male cones (not yet shedding pollen), see Image:Pineflower9538.JPG - MPF 10:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Let's elaborate on how the scales flake back when the cone becomes dry.

na stuff that, lets eat it and get a mickie d's while we're at it.!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.3.121.152 (talk) 18:24, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reword[edit]

The first sentence should be reworded. The term "cone" is applied to strobili in general, not just those of conifers. --Schzmo 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I added a sentence talking about strobili. What do you think? Gary 21:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. Since this page is only a subtopic of strobilus, I would like the first sentence to say what a cone is, without seeming to say that the word "cone" is unique to conifers. --Schzmo 12:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find the title for this page to be very awkward, given that no one uses the phrase "conifer cone" when speaking of the cones of conifers. Why not simply call this page "Cone" or "Cone (botany)", and specify its context in the disambiguation page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.119.252.190 (talk) 19:13, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Scrapbooks?[edit]

Maybe I'm missing something, but "Pinecones can also be used for various things such as scrapbooking" seems incredibly strange and random. It's been here for a while, so I'm hesitant to remove this sentence, but I'd propose that, if it's going to stay, someone elaborate (how is a pinecone used for scrapbooking?) and move it to somewhere other than its current placement, which seems arbitrary. Yes i agree

Fogster (talk) 23:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More images needed[edit]

This is pathetic! Aren't there any sites with zillions of pictures of every kind of pine cone? -74.75.213.191 (talk) 00:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pine nuts?[edit]

Some mention of pine nuts should be made here. After all, they are a major reason for human interest in the cones (if I may be forgiven for taking myself as representative). I'm not sure how this should be done, though. 87.70.171.112 (talk) 10:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fruit?[edit]

Is a pine cone a fruit? A pod? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.118.100 (talk) 07:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Neither; it's a strobilus, commonly called a "cone".--Curtis Clark (talk) 13:44, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pine Cone[edit]

A black & white photograph was recently added with the caption "A pine cone (Israel)", but with no species identification. Another editor added a "tag" requesting species ID. It seems extremely unlikely that anyone could identify the species from a 2-dimensional photograph with no scale to indicate the size of the cone and no needle characteristics. I would also question where the photograph was taken; even if the photographer was from Israel, that does not confirm that the pine cone is native to that area of the World. I propose that the photograph be deleted for lack of information. The photograph is already shown on another page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Tal. 74.240.50.159 (talk) 12:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are some other photos of unidentified specimens in this page as well (a few of them are of quite low quality compared with this one):

Home-made pine cone cow

A pine cone covered in ice after an ice storm

Male cones of a pine

Immature female pine cone -

So an equal criteria should be applied anyway. True, the specific cone is not identified (yet), but one should consider the overall contribution of photo (if any) before deleting it. I have already put some other photos without knowing the exact terminology (e.g. swan - A feeding Mute Swan in ice-covered pool, Hanover), which were later identified by the expert Wpedians. Patience, pls. Etan J. Tal 13:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etan J. Tal (talk • contribs)

User:MPF identified this specimen as An Aleppo Pine cone. Hope this settles the issue... Etan J. Tal 15:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etan J. Tal (talk • contribs) [reply]

I've just had a look at this page to see whether I can recommend it; on the whole, yes, but I've a few points: in Pinaceae, surely the bracts subtend the seed scale, not the other way around as written; perhaps they mean gametes, not gametophytes; In Araucariaceae, the bract and seed scale aren't nesessarily fully fused (in Araucaria, for example); in Taxaceae I'm not sure that it's universally accepted that the aril is derived from the seed scale. Hope I haven't offended good form here, Pete Michna.131.111.119.26 (talk) 13:34, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Biological function[edit]

The page as it stands doesn't seem to have a clear explanation of the biological function of the cones, and how they achieve it. It's implicit in lots of the discussion (the mention of male and female cones, the pollen dispersal, the brief mention that dry weather is a good time for wind-based seed dispersal). Would it perhaps make sense to have a section before the discussion of the different types of female cone of this? That was the reason I just came to this page, and I think I've gleaned enough (particularly from the Pinaceae cones section), but I don't feel confident to write the new section myself. Story Weaver (talk) 14:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

spiritual connection to pine cones[edit]

hey wondering if anyone has any good information about pine cones and their connection to the pineal gland. there is reference to this is many cultures. not sure if this would just need it's own page or if it could be a section under conifer cone. cheers

"cultural uses" section woefully incomplete[edit]

I was surprised to find that the "Cultural uses" section was lacking any mention of the many uses of conifer cones throughout history as esoteric or occult devices, such as the thyrsus, or as an artistic motif, such as with the the Fontana della Pigna. Surely some mention of the pineal gland and its etymological, figurative and metaphoric ties to the pine cone would also be appropriate. Bricology (talk) 20:04, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 6 November 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Calidum 03:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Conifer cone → Pine cone – Common name 150.250.5.21 (talk) 06:48, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Well, kind of. This would change the scope, however, wouldn't it? We can call a yew berry a conifer cone because it's technically true, but would anyone call a yew berry a "pine cone"? Dekimasuよ! 13:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - pines are only one genus of conifer. --Nessie (talk) 15:11, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; current title precisely identifies the topic of the article. "Pine cone" is a subtopic. Plantdrew (talk) 20:29, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Cones in cycads, etc.[edit]

A good-faith editor added a dictionary-like definition as the lead paragraph. I reverted for now pending discussion. A particular point is how cycad cones should be handled in this article. Defn. added:

>>>Seed-bearing organ on gymnosperm plants. A type of fruit, usually woody, ovoid to globular, including scales, bracts, or bracteoles arranged around a central axis, especially in conifers and cycads. <<<

Cheers, Facts707 (talk) 13:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

it’s not a fruit[edit]

i deleted a type of fruit as only angiosperms fruit 193.119.80.98 (talk) 09:12, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Botanically that's not correct however. Invasive Spices (talk) 13 July 2022 (UTC)