Talk:Configurable Network Computing

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A CNC advertisement?[edit]

This notion that the article is stupid reflects ignorance of the technology. The Configurable Network Computing architecture or CNC is NOT a product that can be sold. It has its strengths and weaknesses just as does any architecture. SimonATL 19:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The {{advert}} note says This article or section is written like an advertisement. This for me is mainly about the language and style. When I skimmed the article, certain sentences stood out. The first sentence states for example [...] implements scalable enterprise-wide business solutions software that can run on a wide variety of hardware, operations systems (OS) and hardware platforms. Later down there is the CNC architecture combines the these advantages with its own flexible architecture to combine support for a web-based thin client through its implementation of a Java Applications or (JAS) server architecture with its own flexible technology and a little further down CNC technology will seamlessly and transparently act as a glue holding this heterogenous system together in a well-managed and risk-disbursed/diminished way. I could probably continue, but overall the tone of the article to me sounds not really "encyclopedic", more like ad copy. My impression, that I expressed with the {{advert}}. BTW, this be called "stupid" doesn't help

discussions. Thanks, --S.K. 12:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

S.K., You make some good points, so I added the following text in the intro:

"While highly flexible, the CNC architecture is proprietary and, as such, it can not be exported to any other systems. By 2000, its chief claim to fame, insulation of applications from the underlying database and operating systems, was largely superceded by modern web-based technology. Nevertheless, it continues to be at the heart of JDEdwards EnterpriseOne architecture and will figure in some way in Oracle's developing fusion architecture initiative."

While the article might seem like an advertisement, the CNC architecture, exactly does what I wrote that it does, quoting the article, "CNC technology will seamlessly and transparently act as a glue holding this heterogenous system together in a well-managed and risk-disbursed/diminished way." This is, in fact, exactly what this architecture does. I didn't invent it, but I have studied it, in detail for almost 7 years. The fact that you might not be aware of just how all this works doesn't turn this article into an advertisement. I just got off the phone with one more clueless recruiter who just asked me for the 99th time, "What is this CNC business?" - Which is exactly why I started the article. I got tired of explaining it to the 98 previous recruiters. Consider this, ask yourself, why would Peoplesoft, a company 20 times larger than JDEdwards have been interested in purchasing tiny little JDEdwards a few years back when they already making competitive ERP applications? Answer, One of the major reasons is because the realized the unique technology that's called Configurable Network Computing. And now that Oracle has purchased Peoplesoft, I've heard Oracle technologists talk about the unique features of this same technology saying, in effect, "We have a lot of cool database stuff, but NOTHING like this architecture and it really is an amazing and cool technology." My point - These are not marketing typed making these comments, these are technology types. Now, the fact is that a lot of the previous advantages of the CNC architecture have been superceded by web-based tools. I wrote that in the intro, removed your "ad tag" but, you didn't realize the point. Please do some more research into this CNC business, yourself. Then come back and improve the article so that it makes more sense to someone who might not know anything about it. That will also be my next project. I intend to greatly expand this article with drawings done by myself and uploaded, because I want WIKIPEDIA to be the definative source for info on this illusive technology. Sorry if I seemed insulting. I should have said "ignorant" not "stupid." I also removed the ad tag as I don't think it applies with the additions I made to the article. Help improve the article as I'd appreciate a NON-CNC perspective. This field is quite detail-driven and it took me 5 years to even begin to get comfortable with it. Thanks SimonATL 18:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Will soon be removing the wikified notice[edit]

The links are directly to the originators of the technology if readers want more information. Also, the article is footnoted and does meet wiki standards. Please demonstrate why this claim is accurate. Editors should not just add tags with absolutely no discussion. This violates wikipedia policies. Let's discuss. SimonATL 19:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The {{wikify}} is mostly because there are large stretches of text without any wiki links at all, in particular towards the end of the article. The template itself expresses what needs to be done, it says in particular, [...] improve [...] relevant internal links. To me it doesn't help you adding a sentence like This violates wikipedia policies, without pointing towards those policies, since I've never seen a policy stating this. But I'm happy to learn if you can point me towards it. --S.K. 12:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have added footnoting to links that support each of the sections. There is no real controversy about the CNC architecture or CNC system analyst functions. SimonATL (talk) 16:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep OUT ads for Consulting Company[edit]

It's fine to leave the article from their site on what is a CNC, but the following link constitutes an ad which is not allowed on wikipedia. http://www.consultingcompany.com CNC Managed Service Provider. If we allowed Consulting Companies to advertise, we'd have to have a page for every single consulting company who supports JDE including my own! This is prohibited by wikipedia rules. If an ad returns, expect a call to your ID director, CIO or other management at your company. I've heard good things about consulting company, but rules are rules. Thanks. SimonATL (talk) 16:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]