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CED tries to rewrite the article--copy ex User talk:Rjensen

Committee for Economic Development page

Hi Rjensen, Hope all is well. I see that you removed all of the changes that I made yesterday on the Wikipedia page for the Committee for Economic Development. I am the organization's Communications Manager, and I have been tasked by our management team at CED to update the page with current information, new research, updated focus areas, and changes to our bi-annual policy conferences and awards celebration. All of the changes I made in the two versions from yesterday (12.1.21) were vetted by the CED team before posting.

Can we please restore the version I changed, so the organization's information is as up-to-date and accurate as possible? We realize our team has not updated this page in many years; this is our major overhaul to ensure everything matches with our current content and branding.

CommunicationsTCB (talk) 14:03, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

you need to first explain your plans on this talk page and then proceed in small steps. Wikipedia editors are VERY suspicious of anyone's public relations officials making edits--there is (in general) a serious question of objectivity and covering up controversies. (This discussion belings on the CED talk page. Rjensen (talk) 18:51, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

COI tag (January 2022)

Literally the entire article is sourced to the organization's website valereee (talk) 13:06, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Indef semi

Probable UPE by IPs. valereee (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Better sources needed

@Mch115, literally every citation is to the organization's own website. We don't like to use what an entity says about itself except for very noncontroversial details, and even if they're noncontroversial, we don't necessarily consider them worth including. What Wikipedia does is report what reliable sources are saying about the organization. What we need are instances of significant coverage in reliable sources that are not affiliated with the organization (which means we don't use republished press releases either.)

As the communications manager for the organization you would be in a better position to know what press the organization has received. We don't care how old they are, so feel free to go back through the physical clippings from the 1940s on, or if there've been mentions in books? valereee (talk) 13:25, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Possible sources

Here's one: "American business leaders are not new to this challenge. A prime historical example occurred in 1942, when America’s leading CEOs took on the challenge of creating a rules-based, post war economic order to ensure peace and prosperity. They formed the Committee for Economic Development (CED), and they have been referred to “as the capitalists who cared enough about the system to save it.” Their efforts to provide non-partisan public policy solutions helped give the United States and the world the Marshall Plan, the Bretton Woods Agreement and the Employment Act of 1946, which created the Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) and established the Joint Economic Committee."[1] It's not actually significant coverage, but the fact the organization's beginnings 80 years ago is being discussed w/re current events, it's a plausible claim to notability. So I'll go ahead and start the rewrite. valereee (talk) 13:55, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Fortune give a similar amount of coverage.[2]

And finally: A book-length treatment.[3] Amazingly, my library has it, although WorldCat doesn't seem to realize it. valereee (talk) 17:30, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Capitalism must meet the challenge: Prosperity for all Americans", The Hill (newspaper)
  2. ^ Mudge, Stephanie L. (30 May 2019). "Commentary: An Alliance Between Big Business and Democratic Socialists Isn't as Unlikely as It Sounds". Fortune. Retrieved 2022-01-30.
  3. ^ Schriftgiesser, Karl (1967). Business Comes of Age. The Story of the Committee for Economic Development and Its Impact Upon the Economic Policies of the United States, 1942-1960. New York: Harper and Brothers. OCLC 911692573.