Talk:Coat of arms of Schleswig

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Blazon[edit]

The colour of the claws of the two lions is normally not specified. The blazon I've written here is based on the fact that both the arms of South Jutland and Schleswig-Holstein use red claws. It is possible that the original colour was golden like on Denmark's national coat of arms, but I have no blazon at hand for the royal arms. If anybody has further information, please update accordingly. Valentinian ^(talk) 08:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a copy of Erling Svane's Det danske Rigsvåben og Kongevåben (Odense University Press, 1994). The official depictions of the arms of both Frederick IX, Queen Margrethe II and Prince Henrik all show golden claws, so I've updated the blazon accordingly. (Figures 129 (p. 149), 134 (p. 154) and 138 (p. 158) respectively.) Valentinian ^(talk) 12:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sønderjylland / Slesvig in Danish language use[edit]

I've restored both of the Danish names for the province. The name Sønderjylland was used during the Middle Ages for the lands south of the Kongeå River, i.e. both the modern South Jutland County and Southern Schleswig. Later, Danish also used the name Slesvig for this region.

The rest of the story is that the area north of the Kongeå River was known as Nørrejylland (Northern Jutland) until the mid nineteenth century. During the 1864-1920 period, the word Nørrejylland became obsolete and the words Nord-, Midt-, and Sydjylland (North-, Central-, and South Jutland) became more widely used - all of them referring to territory north of the Kongeå River. During this period, both Slesvig and Sønderjylland were used for the entire territory between the Eider River and the Kongeå River.

Following the reunification of Northern Schleswig with Denmark in 1920, the name Sønderjylland became used mostly in connection with the Danish half of the historical province - what is now South Jutland County - but the name is occationally also used for the entire province, e.g. in historical works. In modern Danish, Jutland is often "partitioned" thus: Nordjylland, Midtjylland and Syd- og Sønderjylland (North-, Central-, and "South and Southern Jutland").

But all in all, both forms are used / have been used in Danish, so I believe both names belong here. Not including Sønderjylland will be definitely incorrect regarding the medieval period, and this symbol dates from this era. Regards. Valentinian ^(talk) 10:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See also e.g. [1] (the website of the Danish monarchy) which refers to the Duchy of Schleswig as Sønderjylland. Valentinian ^(talk) 11:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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