Talk:Climate fiction

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Potential references

I'm taking these out of the article and putting them here for now. Some of these could be good references for the article, but they need to be integrated as inline refs. As "external links" or "further reading", they just clutter it up.

• Amitav Ghosh's 'The Great Derangement': A wide-ranging enquiry into climate change, oped by Srinath Perur August 27,2016
• Hot Tomorrow: The Urgency and Beauty of Cli-Fi August 24, 2016
• The Chronicle of Higher Education: The Subfield That Is Changing the Landscape of Literary Studies
• Associated Press: Cli-fi literature in college curricula March 7, 2016
• Margaret Atwood in Medium cli-fi package on how to survive the future
• Cli-Fi - That's Climate Fiction - Is the New Sci-Fi, Wired magazine
• There have even been whispers of cli-fi as a new literary genre
• As the weather shifts, cli-fi takes root as a new literary genre
• Will the rise of "cli-fi" spur youth into climate action?
• 'Anthropocene Fictions:' The Novel in a Time of Climate Change (Adam Trexler, PhD)
• The Huffington Post: Cli-fi is real
• Turning Pages: How climate-change fiction is heating up
• Associated Press: Climate Change Inspires Rise of 'Cli-Fi' Flicks
• The New York Times: Can Cli Fi Change Minds? 6 Experts Speak Their Minds
• NPR radio broadcast April 2013: Climate Change Has Created New Literary Genre
• TIME magazine: Summer Cli-Fi Thrillers
• Climate Change Dystopia, discusses current popularity of climate change dystopia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.36.123.21 (talk) 22:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

— Gorthian (talk) 19:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

"Other examples"

@Sadads: I removed all redlinks from the "Other examples" section, a move which you reverted. You are of course correct that there's no objection against redlinks, and I do expect that some of these are likely notable, too. The problem a list like this, though, is that without inclusion criteria, it simply gets too long. And either it already is too long, or the section name should be changed from "Other examples" to "List of works of climate fiction". If, however, the purpose really is to list a number of examples and not all climate fiction novels in existence, "no redlinks" is the least arbitrary inclusion criterium I can think of. Lennart97 (talk) 19:03, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

@Sadads: Sorry, just pinging you again in case you missed the previous one. Also just to be clear, I am not saying that "no redlinks" is the only possible solution, only that I think the current list really is too long for a section on examples (especially when there is already a separate section on the most prominent examples). Lennart97 (talk) 11:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Cli-fi

Cli-fi redirects here but has substantial text after the #REDIRECT directive. Please can an editor familiar with the subject un-redirect, merge, delete or otherwise deal with the content? Pinging the main contributor, Thelma et Serena. Thanks, Certes (talk) 15:55, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

List-ish-ness

Is anyone opposed to cutting the large lists to a separate article? I don't want to remove the work but it's hard to provide a summary weaving through that many items. Greenbound (talk) 05:05, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

One thing that I'd call a list, Greenbound, isn't titled, but is introduced by "Other authors who have used this subject matter include". Do you count it as one of the "large lists"? -- Hoary (talk) 04:15, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, Hoary. Yes, that's a list and then Other examples immediately follows it. But even section 2, History, has a kind of list character to it. I was hoping for a couple of example list articles that might be suitable for formatting purposes. I won't do anything drastic here until the content is preserved elsewhere. In the spirit of WP:V, anything listed should have a source identifying it with the genre. I have done some academic stuff on this, so I don't mind doing the referencing. Greenbound (talk) 05:18, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, "Prominent examples" is pretty much a list, even above its second half (which is more obviously a list). A problem here is that the great majority of this article is more or less list-ish. It goes from slightly listy to definitely listy to merely listy. What to do about it? I've no particular opinion right now, and the subject area is one of which I know nothing. -- Hoary (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

Monolingualism

Looking at this article, what strikes me even more than the listishness is the seeming obsession with what happens to be in a single language, English. This oddity isn't limited to this one article. The French article on climate fiction is even titled Englishly, "Climate fiction", and is mostly about stuff in English, with a scrap about French appended as an afterthought. The Italian, "Climate fiction", is similarly disappointing. (I didn't look at the others.) Conceivably, all of this reflects a lack of writing in languages other than English; but (climate fiction ignoramus that I am) I find this hard to believe. -- Hoary (talk) 08:26, 25 December 2022 (UTC)