Talk:Chip pan

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Pictures[edit]

Okay - the first picture is of a skillet and the second is of a large pot. How can these two very different things both be chip pans? Also note that the second will be deleted soon for an useable license. Rmhermen 19:18, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Apparantly someone was confused. The first picture was actually a frying pan (and is used in that article.) Removed as such. GeeJo (t) (c) • 19:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Someone was (i.e., me). I will find a nice GFDL image or two. Please hang off on deleting the second image for a few days until I can locate a suitable replacement. Proto||type 12:13, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, the second image has been replaced with a freely donated one. Proto||type 10:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

new image[edit]

Image:Chip-pan-fire.jpg appears to show something on fire over a bunsen burner in a lab. It is hard to tell simply from the photo what is actually burning, or how the fire was started. Can the original uploader please provide some more detail? Thanks. Arbitrary username 20:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I note that this has been done now. Many thanks. Arbitrary username 19:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Extinguishment[edit]

Why is it inadvisable to use a fire extinguisher to put out a chip pan fire? Phasmatisnox 08:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Fire classes article, cooking oil fires (Europe class F) burn hotter than other typical combustible liquids, rendering the standard class B extinguisher ineffective. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Most extinguishers contain water or some form of liquid, so using it could have similar effects to throwing water on a chip pan fire, as described in the main article. A UK Class F fire extinguisher (wet chemical extinguisher) would be best suited. I believe Class F's are only made in 6 litre containers though, which is too big for a small kitchen chip pan fire. So a fire blanket or simply a damp towell are perfectly adequate. Toby14483 (talk) 12:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More picture stuff[edit]

The article has a lot of photos of stuff on fire. Where's the photo that just shows what a chip pan is? This American couldn't pick one out of a lineup. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:22, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's like a big high-sided saucepan. (Chips are fries, btw, if you didn't know!) It often contains a basket with an attached handle. I'll try and find a free one, but it's tricky as I don't own one, and stores don't sell them any more (due to all the fires. Neil ム 12:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All Fire no Chips[edit]

This article is very misleading - anybody who doesn't know what a chip pan is will assume it does nothing but eject huge balls of flame every time someone dares to fry chips this way. I have used a chip pan for many years, and never once has it caught fire. How about moving this article to Chip Pan Fire and having something actually ON chip pans here? 86.148.220.241 18:35, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, it's better than it was. Feel free to improve it. Chris Cunningham 10:17, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If you have an image of your chip pan, that would be greatly appreciated. I have been trying to get one for ages - nobody I know has one any more, all the images I've found online are copyrighted, and no stores sell them any more, probably due to their reputation as combustive devices. Neil ム 10:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alas my chip pan is about 70 miles away at the moment, but I'll gladly contribute next time I'm visiting its current home :) Chris Cunningham 12:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I found a great picture online, and I've requested permission to use it but the more the better. Do you live 70 miles away from it because of this article? ;p Neil ム 12:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I split this article and started one called chip pan fire. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.127.126.117 (talk) 17:35, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah me need more about the actual vessel, not one possible eventuality which may occur due to heavy drinking and ill-advised beer munchies solutioneering; over zealous use of combustible accelerants in lieu of fat; and a generally casual relationship with the real world that such fire-making often indicates. Chips (note spelling, US persons!) are 'The Food of the Gods' and this article doesn't reflect their divine provenance. 9 (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC) (who probably needs to go on a diet...)[reply]

9, Good sir, I do beleve you found this from B3ta. Iowaseven (talk) 03:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the above comments. Splitting the article does seem like a good idea, but despite the above claim to have split the article I found it as a single article just now, so maybe someone put it back again (I didn't check the history). I have split the article it myself (again?), and if anyone is opposed to this then please could they discuss it here? Thanks. — Alan✉ 09:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than have two short articles I have re-merged it (as I did last time). fish&karate 07:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that's an improvement. The material on fires now dominates the article to such an extent that if it all has to reside under a single title then frankly it ought to be called chip pan fire instead. — Alan✉ 12:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have used chip pans for more than 20 years and I've NEVER had one catch fire. As long as you use your common sense; i.e don't attempt to use one if you are drunk or tired, make sure you keep an eye on it at all times when it is cooking and don't allow fat or grease to build up on it (keep it clean at all times), I really don't see what the problem is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.187.231 (talk) 21:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try and expand the pan section over the next few days. fish&karate 13:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's looking better - nice work, thanks. — Alan✉ 08:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC) (P.S. sure there's more to be done, of course, but having the main picture being of a chip pan in normal use rather than of one catching fire is a very significant start.) — Alan✉ 08:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said in the above comment I have used chip pans for more than 20 years. I've NEVER had one catch fire. I think stupidity is the reason for chip pans catching fire, not the pan itself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.187.231 (talk) 16:54, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Boil over description may be inacurate[edit]

I'm questioning this sentence: "As the water touches the bottom, it is heated above its boiling point and instantly vaporizes." If I understand the process correctly, it is not necessary for the water to reach the *bottom* of the vessel to be heated enough to cause a steam explosion - simply being submerged in oil that is burning well above water's boiling point is more than enough to cause that water to flash to steam. Comments?Leveretth (talk) 04:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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