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Text removal[edit]

In this edit, the content about the McMartin preschool trial was removed as a content fork. I'm sure there's a line between "extra info about the organization" and a content fork. I'm not sure where it is, but I'm willing to discuss. WLU (t) (c) ^{(rules - simple rules)} 19:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As per edit, move this to talk for discussion

I have deleted a cfork "all facts and major points of view on a certain subject should be treated in one article."

==McMartin preschool trial==

CII played a major role in the McMartin preschool trial, one of the first and certainly largest criminal trial that was part of the day care sex abuse hysteria and satanic ritual abuse moral panic. Before the trial, CII investigated primarily physical abuse, with a small section that conducted infrequent medical examinations and interviews with children involved in child sexual abuse allegations. Kee MacFarlane, an employee at the center, had the idea to use hand puppets and anatomically correct dolls during interviews with children, believing they would aid disclosure and therapeutic recovery. The initial interviews were taped, and later the sections of the tape in which the children actually made disclosures were shown to parents to convence them their children had been abused. The agency ultimately interviewed more than 350 children who were involved in the trial, Snedeker, Michael R.; Nathan, Debbie (1995). Satan's silence: ritual abuse and the making of a modern American witch hunt. New York: Basic Books. p. 127. ISBN 0-465-07180-5.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) using techniques that, when tested, were found to be superior to simple suggestion in causing children to make false allegations. Schreiber, Nadja (2006). "Suggestive interviewing in the McMartin Preschool and Kelly Michaels daycare abuse cases: A case study". Social Influence. 1 (1). Psychology Press: 16–46. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) Garven, S (1998). "More than suggestion: the effect of interviewing techniques from the McMartin Preschool case". Journal of Applied Psychology. 83 (3): 347–59. PMID 9648524. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) Extrabreeze (talk) 19:39, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The language you quote has been taken out of context. It refers to POV forking and not the legitimate and consistant summarizing of relevant information that exists in more detail in a main entry. I'm restoring the text.PelleSmith (talk) 21:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. It is clearly stated that “A content fork is usually an unintentional creation of several separate articles all treating the same subject.” The entry that was deleted and moved to talk is clearly an unnecessary duplication of information in a separate article.

I will do some minor editing of the section in an attempt to cut down on the forking. Extrabreeze (talk) 22:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Without that, the article should probably be deleted as not notable. Although we can't say it, what they're primarily known for is the hysteria. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 22:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"remove undue weight" —Extrabreeze in edit summary.

This is not the language a newbie uses in WP. Extrabreeze: you have edited these sorts of articles before. Haven't you? AR: it's time to request IP check even if this user changed IPs. I haven't requested it before however. Is there a requisite to do it? —Cesar Tort 00:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it is time for an WP:RFCU, perhaps type F. But, if you really think it's clear it's AT/RE, rather than the "you're a pedophile" editor, WP:SSP should be adequate. I'm just not sure. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Biaothanatoi never posted sloppy posts. Biao is an academic and his writing style reflects that. On the other hand, AT/RE/Extrabreeze's style is practically identical. Even arguments are so similar, as well as the spacing between paragraphs in the same (sloppy) post, as he did in talk:SRA, not to mention his many bare URLs. WP:SSP is the right place to start an investigation. —Cesar Tort 02:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed[edit]

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