Talk:Chair of Saint Peter

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changed a minor typo 66.176.39.175 03:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)chris[reply]

On Traditional Roman Catholics[edit]

It is necessary to point out in that the feast of the Chair of St. Peter at Rome and the Chair of St. Peter at Antioch are two separate feasts which continue to be celebrated by a significant portion of Roman Catholics (deemed Traditional Roman Catholics) the world over who use missals that reflect the General Roman Calendar as in 1954. AidanP02 (talk) 00:10, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I most certainly agree with AidanP02 comment! AMC0712 (talk) 01:13, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but to avoid further confusion it is useful to point out that among traditional Roman Catholics are those who accept the Missal and Calendar of 1962, namely with only one Feast of the Chair of St Peter. It would be interesting to have 'significant' clarified with some numbers, and specifically to know if there are more traditionalists who use the 1962 calendar or who use the pre-1962 calendar. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:23, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Novus Ordo Calendar[edit]

I'm unclear about what the 22 February feast celebrates. The article gives me the impression that in the calendar associated with the novus ordo mass, we are celebrating the Antiochene (sic) chair. Maybe I'm just reading it wrongly, but either way we should make it explicit, since everything else indicates that 22 Feb is for Antioch. The only thing, is that an essay on the feast by then-Cardinal Ratzinger, and my breviary, both give me the impression that on 22 Feb we are celebrating the Roman cathedra. Any insight? Carl.bunderson (talk) 06:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Feast is independent of the older Feast of the Chair of St Peter at Antioch on this day. No reference is made at all to Antioch, so that a prima facie reading of the texts of the Feast would indicate that it has become in effect what used to be celebrated on Jan. 18.
It might be interesting to note that the Week of Prayer for Christian Unity starts on Jan. 18 even though the Feast that prompted the choice of that date has been suppressed (or moved). --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Necessity of indicating preference and not rejection[edit]

Many Traditional Roman Catholics continue to celebrate both feasts, that of "St Peter's Chair in Rome," celebrated as a Greater-Double or Double Major feast, and that of "The Chair of St Peter at Antioch," also celebrated as a Greater-Double or Double-Major feast, prefering of course the pre-1962 missals.

It is very important that those who view Traditional Roman Catholics with suspicion should instead thank them for keeping the traditions of the Latin-Rite alive and well. Some will see in the preference for pre-1962 missals a rejection of Pope John XXIII's revised calendar, which is included in the 1962 edition of the Roman Missal, the edition approved for continued use under the conditions indicated in the motu proprio of Pope Benedict XVI "Summorum Pontificum." Some may even say that this is a rejection of the Pope's authority. This simply is not the case for many Traditional Roman Catholics, who have a strong preference for these pre-1962 missals. AMC0712 (talk) 13:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]