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age[edit]

If he lived 1713-90, he couldn't have been 85 when he was killed, as the article states. SpookyMulder (talk) 18:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Miguel de Cervantes[edit]

This must be the sama man that Cervantes met in Algiers when he was a prisoner there... Cervantes made another attempt to escape in September 1577, but was betrayed by the renegade whose services he had enlisted. On being brought before Hassan Pasha, the viceroy of Algiers, he took the blame on himself, and was threatened with death; struck, however, by the heroic bearing of the prisoner, Hassan remitted the sentence, and bought Cervantes from Dali Mami for five hundred crowns. In 1577 the captive addressed to the Spanish secretary of state, Mateo Vazquez, a versified letter suggesting that an expedition should be fitted out to seize Algiers; the project, though practicable, was not entertained. In 1578 Cervantes was sentenced to two thousand strokes for sending a letter begging help from Martin de Córdoba, governor of Oran; the punishment was not, however, inflicted on him. Meanwhile his family were not idle. This can be read here: [1] --85.220.83.220 (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A very interesting note. But, they can't possibly be the same person. Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasha lived in the 18th century and Cervantes lived between 1547 and 1616, Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 09:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"...He was a fleet commander during the Naval Battle of Chesma, and was able to extract the forces under his command from the general disaster for the Turkish navy that occurred there..." Not very clear phrase, I think. What did you mean exactly? The fleet under his command was completely wiped out. What forces were extracted? Starling13 (talk) 09:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

"Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasha" -Llc 5 (4 of 5 were written by Turkish author)
"Hassan Pasha of Algiers" -Llc 20
"Hasan Pasha of Algiers" -Llc 8
"Hasan Pasha of Algeria" -Llc 3

Takabeg (talk) 16:52, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 September 2018[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: NO CONSENSUS Move back to long term stable title of Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasha (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hassan Pasha of Algiers → Hasan Pasha of Algiers – Article originally at this title. Unilaterally moved today by a new user - no discussion and no consensus Velella ^{Velella Talk} 10:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Iffy★Chat -- 12:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This page was at Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasha before the moves, @Velella: do you want the page moved back to the original title, or to the one you propose at this RM? Iffy★Chat -- 12:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would be content to see it moved back to Cezayirli Gazi Hasan Pasha and the article text edited to reflect that name. The text did indeed use the full name n the lede until very recently, so a simple restore of a September version is all that is required. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 13:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The move to the current, unwanted version was done by a sockpuppet of Osourdounmou, originally blocked for mischevious renaming of articles. However, the data collected by Takabeg in the section immediately before this discussion appears to justify the current placing. Kevin McE (talk) 16:26, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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