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Bold and non-bold titles[edit]

Can anyone explain the significance of the bold and otherwise entries in the list of banned film titles?

60.50.244.91 13:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

lol is it just the 1st blade movie thats banned? noy gonna make much sense letteing them see blade 2--86.42.142.62 13:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of movies[edit]

I do not think that the list of movies here is correct. The Simpsons movie was shown in theatres, as were the Rambo and Jumper movie, and I remember watching Babe in theatres when it came out. Other than that, i have two words for the Film Censorship Board of Malaysia - Fuck Cen***ship (Namzie11 (talk) 08:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Speed of swearing affects whether or not the swears will be cut[edit]

I was in the cinema recently and watched Hancock say "Then you better sue McDonald's because they fucked you up." Throughout the movie, though, whenever someone called Hancock an asshole the word was cut. I got the idea that speed affects whether the swears will be cut when I heard someone say "Asshole" fairly quick. Anyway, I don't know what this has to do with the article, but I think if Namzie up there can vent, I should be able to vent, too. 118.100.16.198 (talk) 06:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music censorship[edit]

It should be mentioned that Rihanna and Gwen Stefani have complied with their rules to cover up and not dance in order to perform, however Beyonce refused and therefore canceled her performance there. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 01:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of banned movies[edit]

The current list is cited solely to IMDB, which may or may not be a reliable source for such data. (I would tend to argue that it is, but I know that opinions may vary.) But, in any event, the link given goes to a dynamically generated page which appears as of right now to have no results, which could mean several different things. For example, maybe these films are no longer banned? Or, perhaps, IMDB's link structure has been altered in some subtle way as to render the link invalid?

Rather than immediately remove the list, which if valid is quite relevant and informative, I thought I'd drop a comment here and wait a few days.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know anything about Malaysia, but taking a quick poke at the web (Google malaysia "film censorship board" list, low hanging fruit from first 6 pages) Bolding the ones not mentioned here:

Prince of Egypt, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan:[1]
The above banned, plus Daredevil, but not Final Destination 2:[2]
The Hangover, Boogie Nights, Step Brothers, The Big Sleep, Hustle and Flow, Beavis and Butthead Do America, Zoolander, The Ten Commandments, South Park Bigger Better and Uncut, Final Destination [3] (blog, apparent knowledgeable source)
Bruno, Saw, Saw II, Saw III, Sin City, Brokeback Mountain, 40 Year Old Virgin, Babe Pig in the City: [4]
The Last Communist (Wikinews):[5]

Now the first moral I get from looking at the stories is that it seems that they ban damn near anything, then usually negotiate some series of bad cuts and/or allow some limited type of showing. So in many cases the earlier story says the film was banned and the later one equivocates. Next, it seem that the IMDB list is fairly reliable. The one clear outlier is the blog that lists lots of extra movies. Doing a quick search I'm shot back to Wikipedia, List of banned films, which says (citation needed) The Ten Commandments was banned by "Paramount Malaysia". It also lists the others from the blog source with no details, citation needed. I wonder if these are from a second layer of "self-censorship" not registered in the official statistics? Wnt (talk) 08:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Were you able to find the imdb list at imdb? For me the link just shows a blank page. It seems like doing it the way you did - the hard way - by getting a reliable source for each and every one separately - may be the way to go, eh?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also saw the blank page from the IMDB link (which is also referenced by another site [6]). All web links die eventually, and I don't see any reason to think that the IMDB list was unreliable; but it does seem that each specific banning should have some sort of coverage on its own that will be more informative. Note: I can't guarantee all my links above would pass as true "reliable sources" on review; this was just a general check for consistency. Wnt (talk) 13:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can say this for sure: There are more banned films there than are in the list. The first thing Google turned up for me was this, though. sonia♫ 08:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(copied from WP:MY) I can't find any reliable consolidated list of banned films, although IMBD does seem to have some kind of categorisation: [7] But of course IMDB isn't reliable anyway. I agree it should be rebuilt, but it'll need to be done by ad hoc sourcing (ie individual sources for each entry, such as [8] for Schindler's list). This is probably the only way it can be done, especially because I strongly suspect Malaysia has banned many more films than are currently on the list (no value judgement there). The list would be better of as a prose account of notable examples of Malaysia banning prominent films. --Mkativerata (talk) 22:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I made a very rough stab at improving this by using Wnt's list from above. I echo his concern that some of the sourcing isn't as good as it could be, but I decided to go with it for now to get us started, on the theory that some sourcing is better than none at all. (And no direct BLP issues are at stake here.)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 01:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Internet Censorship[edit]

I think something pretty obvious and open about internet censorship is not mentioned here. It is quite obvious and openly discussed among many that the government blocks certain porn sites, but I guess the malaysian reporters are too 'malu' to ask about it, anyway shouldn't this be mentioned? I'm sure getting evidence is not hard 175.142.228.191 (talk) 14:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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