Talk:Catholic Church sexual abuse cases in Europe

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The article title is POV by suggesting a "catholic scandal" exists in Europe, when what has actually beeen put together are a limited number of individual cases involving Catholics. The article in fact seems to be something of a list. The article title should be moved to something like "List of Catholic related sexual abuse cases in Europe." Xandar 01:04, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They should change it to "Hypocritical Rapist Catholic Bastards (and these are just the European ones)". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.102.240 (talk) 01:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the material seems rather dubious and smacks of listing anything with a vague connexion to the subject e.g. listing examples under Ireland of people who abused in the US but have Irish nationality. Surely they should just be listed under the US article? And a student downloading child porn at a seminary? Most of the cites are newspaper sources - how reliable are they? It would be more credible if it concentrated solely on proven and better cited cases. Otherwise it looks as if we're just part of the media bandwagon. --Bermicourt (talk) 16:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Renamed per Xandar's 2010 comment. I've chosen not to add "Roman" per main article in case that was intentionally ommitted to avoid any confusion with the city or former empire, though that seems unlikely. No objection to anyone else adding it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:52, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Roman bit is justified, as Catholic means "professing Christ" and includes all Churches: only the Roman church has the doctrines which are biased towards priests, offering them disproportionate protection. The way accusations have been systematically suppressed by Cardinal Daneels in Belgium suggests this is institutionalised, at least there.

Orphaned references in Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe[edit]

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  • From Walter Mixa: German bishop accused of beating orphaned girls, Timesonline
  • From Cormac Murphy-O'Connor: Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor: recession may be jolt that selfish Britain needs
  • From Sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic archdiocese of Boston: Belluck, Pam (2002-02-16). "New Hampshire Diocese Names 14 Priests Accused of Abuse". The New York Times.

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United Kingdom/Great Britain[edit]

I've changed the name of the section 'United Kingdom' to 'Great Britain'. The Catholic Curch in Ireland serves Catholics in both the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. The UK section, therefore, should only contain cases which have occurred on the mainland (Great Britain). Obscurasky (talk) 07:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At some time the section heading was reverted to "United Kingdom". Before seeing this comment I added a Northern Ireland section, merely linking to Northern Ireland Historical Institutional Abuse Inquiry (NIHIA) as main article. Should we have Great Britain and (island of) Ireland, or United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and (Republic of) Ireland? A political or religious division? I personally don't have a strong opinion, but this should be agreed upon explicitly and implemented. Whichever way, the NIHIA needs linking. Best wishes, Pol098 (talk) 22:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Belgium[edit]

Can you include details of the cover-up undertaken by the Archdiocese, please? There appear to have been three phases, culminating in the suppression of Wim de Troyes' judicial investigation in 2012. I cannot post as I've been directly involved in fighting off an attempted abuse by colleagues of Peter Adrienssens and an RC Order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.197.135.173 (talk) 08:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Chaplain of His Holiness appointment[edit]

I had to use uBlock Origin to remove the nagging dialog boxes which hid the Washington Post article from view, and once I did that they revealed two meager paragraphs, neither of which mention Benedict XVI or Cappella's appointment as Monsignor. I think more relevant would be his service to "India and Hong Kong" which are mentioned in the headline but not the body of the article. Elizium23 (talk) 21:27, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Covering up information about Henryk Gulbinowicz disciplinary action is unhelpful[edit]

It is confirmed that the Polish Cardinal was not buried in the Wroclaw Cathedral. https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cardinal-gulbinowicz-dies-ten-days-after-vatican-sanctions-67629 InsulinRS (talk) 18:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

InsulinRS, you added it to four different articles and the story has nothing to do with abuse! Elizium23 (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it does, because the burial was discipline action.InsulinRS (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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