Talk:Case Western Reserve Spartans football

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CWRU Mascot logo[edit]

Why was the sports logo removed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Case_Western_Reserve_University_Spartans_logo_mascot.png

It was provided officially by the Case Western Reserve University Marketing and Communications Department for wikipedia usage. (Usaf 1832 (talk) 15:42, 1 June 2017 (UTC))[reply]

Hi Usaf 1832. I removed it because I feel it's use in this particular article does not comply with Wikipedia's non-free content use policy. Each use of non-free content is required to meet all 10 non-free content criteria. Generally, the use of mascot logos such as this is considered acceptable for stand-alone articles about (1) the mascot itself and (2) the athletic department of a university because this is where it is believed any sourced critical commentary related to the logo and other branding selected by a university is most likely to be found or possibly added. The consensus established in similar discussion at WP:FFD has been that using such logos in individual team articles or individual season articles is generally not allowed because such usage tends to be more decorative than contextual so WP:NFCC#8 is not deemed to be met. Such use is also not typically allowed per WP:NFCC#3 (specifically item 17 of WP:NFC#UUI) because the primary article about a university's athletic teams is considered to be the athletic team/mascot article and the individual tema articles, etc. are seen as "child articless" of the parent article. In such cases, logos specific to individual teams or individual seasons (i.e., which allow the individual team or season to clearly be identified) as considered acceptable to use, but the default is not to allow non-free use the main logo in cases where team/season-specific logos do not exist. In this particular case, the article Case Western Reserve Spartans exists and the logo's non-free use seems more suitable for that article, which is why I moved it there and removed it from this article. After looking at the university's website it seemed to me that this logo is not specifically used by just the football team, but is also used by the other athletic teams as well. If that's not the case, then please clarify.

Just for reference, a public domain image or freely licensed image such as a wordmark is not subject to Wikipedia's non-free content use policy and therefore can typically be used without any problem in articles such as this. It also makes no difference as to what the university wants when it comes to non-free use since the article is not for promoting the university or its athletic teams, and the university has no editorial control over article content. Permission from the copyright holder is not required for non-free use; all that is needed is that the relevant use comply with relevant Wikipedia policy. If the university would like to release the logo under a free license, they can do so. Just explain to them WP:DONATEIMAGE and WP:CONSENT, and make sure that they understand that a free license compatible for Wikipedia basically means they agree to allow anyone to use the logo for any purpose, including commercially. They also should understand that was an image has been released under a free license, the license cannot be revoked.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here, at WP:MCQ or WT:NFCC. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:12, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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