Talk:Carl Hamilton novels

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Is Carl Hamilton named after a journalist in a large swedish newspaper? I haven't read this anywhere, but since one of Guillou's collegues has the same name it would be to strange if this wasn't so.

Jan Guillou and Carl Hamilton are both writing articles in the swedish newspaper "Aftonbladet".

Coq Rouge: 1) The massacre didnt take place in a embassy but a private house.

          2) He didnt prevent the massacre,he only saved a little girl

According to the "About section" in my pocketbooks, the character is loosely based on Guillou's friend, Mr.Oxenstierna, who was a Swedish noble in a leftist organization. However, to hide that it was based on him, he needed to use another name, and was told that Hamilton was a very common name for the nobility. So therefore Hamilton was chosen. Note that he based the person on it, not the skillset or anything. ;)

The quote that sparked Guillous was when Oxenstierna was refered to as Comrade Oxenstierna which has a note of paradox in Swedish since Oxenstierna is a name among high nobility, see Axel Oxenstierna. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.227.146.137 (talk) 14:04, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At least that's what my paperbacks said (They're in Norwegian though, so I suspect that any Swede here has better extra material in theirs.)

80.202.118.81 (talk) 01:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vice Admiral...[edit]

That section is a bit unclear... He becomes the Director of SÄPO, which is a position comparable to the rank of vice-admiral in the navy. His civil rank as Director of SÄPO is "translated" into the military rank of Vice-Admiral, giving him that rank in the navy.

-Koppe 13:20, 14 July 2008 (CET)

Code name Trident[edit]

Trident? Where does that come from? Is that the English translation's version? All I've read in German and heard from Swedish friends is that the original code name is and was "Coq Rouge", also it was not acquired during his training but a bit later at his first mission. In fact he was named after a brand of red wine according to: Gillou. Coq Rouge (in German). Piper. ISBN 3-492-25578-7.. Judging from Google, this name is already crawling the web. De728631 (talk) 00:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, an IP introduced this to the article saying that Coq Rouge was just a nickname. Still, it's confusing. I need to re-read the first chapters. De728631 (talk) 00:53, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trident was his codename during his training with the US navy seals. Coq Rouge was a code name given to "the Swedish SÄPO agent who caught and killed the Israeli terrorists (events from the first book in the series)" since it was not known who did it. Coq Rouge was in other words used by intelligence organizations but not by Hamilton himself. - Johannes Wiberg 10:07, 2 December 2008 (CET)

One must be extremely dimwitted to not figure out that Hamilton IS Coq Rouge. This, afterall, is about a fictional character, and the author more or less spells it out that Hamilton is Coque Rouge. What is the relevance that Hamilton does not refer to himself as Coq Rouge? --88.89.220.161 (talk) 23:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Hamilton is Coq Rouge, and dimwittedness has nothing to do with it as it's not a puzzle to be solved but stated throughout the first books. As I wrote earlier, Hamilton's code name for himself wasn't Coq Rouge, it was a code name used by other intelligence services (USSR IIRC) when his identity wasn't known to them, only his actions. Trident was his own code name, just as Orca was Ake Stalhandskes, for example. 80.217.8.62 (talk) 09:02, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Character of Carl Hamilton[edit]

'Hamilton displays very little personality throughout the books'

Isn't this a bit unfair? Yes he is described low-key, but under the controlled surface he is a complex personality. This is indicated more than described. In the early books 'The Old One' acts as his personal counsellor, being a trained psychologist. Hamilton's sleeping and impotence issues are the giveaway. The fact that his job gives him these kinds of problems shows him off as basically sane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.240.70.102 (talk) 18:02, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]