Talk:Canada and the Iraq War

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Rewrite Needed[edit]

Information in this article is untrue! Canada has sent JTF2, and a small number of other troops to Iraq. Im in the process of re-writing this article now ~~user:samr

As far as I know, JTF2 was only in Iraq as part of the CPT hostage rescue operation. See also Multinational_force_in_Iraq#Fewer_than_100_soldiers. heqs 18:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, they have been there for quite some time. It is hard to get exact information on JTF2 since the government has a policy of not discussing them at all. However, if you look closely at a few speeches of former Minister of Defence Bill Graham, and a few conservative shadow member speeches they say they have been there for a while working with Delta Force and the SAS. Samr 00:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to be more specific than that. That may be too vague to be verifiable. heqs 02:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well even if JTF-2 were sent, its black-ops stuff that cant be confirmed, so Canada still officially stayed out of the Iraq War.

This sentence: "In November 2003, the United States officially invited Canada to join the coalition, along with other allies." should read Nob\vember 2002, yes?

Another fact which is wrong is the reference to the Harper government regarding WMDs near the beginning. The Liberals under Chretien was the government at the time. Harper was opposition. He spoke in favor of war and cited Iraq's WMDs as justification in the well known plagarized speech. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canadavotes/story/2008/09/30/rae-harper.html 99.242.33.83 (talk) 16:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rewritten[edit]

I have rewritten the article. I included all of the facts stated in the first article and more. I also formatted the article for better clarity and added headings to include a TOC.

Thoughtstipated 00:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


Needs mention made of the 32 US troops who "defected" to Canada, protesting the war. Only name I know off-hand was Chris Teske, who first served two tours in Afghanistan, then left. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead) 10:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Slander?[edit]

The article reads that Parrish and other politicians started slandering the United States government. Carolyn Parrish was outspoken on the issue, but I don't see, nor do I remember anything that constitutes slander. This should be removed I think or at least corrected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.157.172.249 (talk) 19:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]

POV[edit]

Probably should include the very real "who care's if Canada helps us" attitude that many (probably most) American Citizens take towards Canadian military assistance. I am a bit busy with another article, but, I may get to it. Travis Cleveland (talk) 03:28, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You think the article should be written with a "Who Cares?" attitude? 99.232.199.24 (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You misunderstand. Many Americans wouldn't care if Canada helped because we have so little military power. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 14:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you will excusez mon français s'il vous plaît, but that is just plain retarded. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.199.24 (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As I recall Bush was pissed that Canada didn't join because our participation would have made the invasion seem more legitimate. Why is Harper mentioned in this section? At the time he was the leader of the Alliance party and outspoken in his parties objection that Canada would not commit to Iraq, he had nothing to do with the decision. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.112.81.160 (talk) 20:03, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Deaths Reformatting?[edit]

Maybe this part of the article should be changed for ease of reading? 24.86.71.241 (talk) 05:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

JTF-2[edit]

Article needs to mention members of JTF-2 working in Iraq. QuinnHK (talk) 17:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canada's involvement in the war[edit]

A list of known contributions to the war are detailed here ttp://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8110 --Conor Fallon (talk) 21:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

here's the link again, in a more easily accessible form. Pinkville (talk) 01:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Globalresearch.ca is not a reputable source. This Wiki indexes a number of their bunk, conspiracist claims: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca That page has links to their articles making completely bunk claims and distorting facts. DoItAgain (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Rational" Wiki is not a reputable source, they are just a bunch of neocon crackpot! Rather than commenting and arguing on the Richard Sanders article picked up by Globalresearch, you prefer to bitch against the GlobalResearch website. Here's a tiny little bit of work for you, DoItAgain: http://coat.ncf.ca/articles/Natynczyk_Iraq.htm http://coat.ncf.ca/articles/Canada_Iraq.htm http://coat.ncf.ca/mideast/WikiLeaksIraq.htm http://coat.ncf.ca/P4C/65/65.htm

GlobalResearch.ca is a crackpot conspiracy theory website which does not produce verifiable research and merely serves to repeat and amplify Russian propaganda. It is absolutely inappropriate to use it for anything. SayLessHersh (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The entire section on Canada's "involvement" is extremely skewed. Multiple contemporaneous news accounts made it very clear that the US was explicitly angry with Canada for not providing political support. The reported decision to allow Canadian ships and planes to escort US and coalition vessels toward the combat zone does not meet any legal definition of entering into a conflict as a combatant. The decision to allow a number of Canadian service personnel to continue their secondments with the US military in the opening phases of the conflict likewise did not make Canada a party to the conflict. This is a very strangely written section. SayLessHersh (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Article should be deleted[edit]

This article is deeply flawed, starting with bad sourcing (globalresearch.ca is a Russian government propaganda front), sloppy information errors (e.g. errors in months and years of events), and is clearly written with a deep POV bias. It clearly attempts to write an alternate version of history in which the Canadian government actually secretly joined the coalition, while presenting no evidence of this, ignoring basic definitions of international law and generally making a mess of reality. It is not possible to edit this into a better state - it should be deleted and someone competent and not attempting to impose their personal views should start afresh.MonsieurVite 00:38, 8 December 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonsieurVite (talk • contribs)

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