Talk:CZ 82

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Additions[edit]

I added the discontinued status of the CZ 83 in the US, the 9mm P.A. rubber model, and the types of rifling. --JohnMc (talk) 13:02, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

Added picture, wikified, and added category.--Asams10 18:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should delete the Commentary section because it is flat wrong.

I deleted the commentary section, and would encourage everyone else to do so if someone reverts it or re-writes it with the same popycock. It was full of nonsense. For instance: the American doctrine for handguns has never been to produce "complicated" designs. The M1911 was flawlessly simple, and the current M9 and SIG226 pistols in use are not especially complicated. Also: the part about the American practice of using the "powerful" 9mm cartridge while Europeans were opting for weaker rounds is garbage, the 9mm was first used in service pistols by the Germans and was used by dozens of nations both during and after WWII. Only the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries were in the habit of using cartridges smaller than 9mm, as they still are today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.51.187 (talk) 22:18, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Move explanation[edit]

I have moved the article from vz.82 page to vz. 82, correct designation with space, as seen, for example on this page (in czech, but space between "vz." and "82" is quite visible, I hope)--ja_62 13:39, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving this page[edit]

I'd like to ask Echo5charlie not to move this page to vz.82 (without space between "vz." and "82") as he have done several times e.g. here [1]. His unreferenced moving is not quite clever thing, and his accusation towards me, that my moving was unsourced and vandalism is quite stupid lie, especially when he kept my reference to correct variant of designation in the article. thanks --ja_62 15:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
P.S.: I don't know where are you from and what language do you speak Echo5charlie, but Czech, Slovak and Czechoslovak arms designation is always wit space between vz. and model number - althoug on many weapons, the designation is actually written in form VZ.XX, or VZ-XX, without space between vz. and number (due to some technical and typographical reasons). Other option should be correct long form of designation - vzor 82 as I proposed on vz. 24 rifle talk page.

Mr. Ja is quite right; I should think that the Czech army would be the authority on this sort of weapon, and if they typeset it with a space, wiki should do the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.51.187 (talk) 22:21, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Violation of WP:EN[edit]

The title of this article should be in English as this is the English language version of Wikipedia. Any comments? Please read WP:EN. --Nukes4Tots (talk) 07:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No such thing as a "CZ 82." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.4.202.106 (talk) 11:02, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. The name of the weapon is "vz. 82." The English translation would be "Model 82," but changing the name of the article to such would be the equivalent of changing the name "David" to the word "Beloved" because "David" is a Hebrew word. "vz. 82" is a proper noun and should be treated as such. Also, though CZ 82 is not the proper military designation, it is an acceptable term, since CZ made the pistol and it is a "model 82;" it would be like saying "Remmington 870" instead of "Remmington Model 870" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.51.187 (talk) 22:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is not an acceptable term. There is no such pistol as the "CZ 82"; the "CZ" is the terminology of Česká zbrojovka for their COMMERCIAL offerings. The Vz. 82 was a military product not intended for commercial sales. It is significant that when Česká zbrojovka started manufacturing these pistols for commercial export it was as the CZ 83, not "CZ 82."

Referring to the Vz. 82 as a "CZ 82" is like calling an M9 a "Beretta model 9" rather than using Beretta's own nomenclature of "Model 92FS." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.182.41 (talk) 08:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]