Talk:Bronze Horseman

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Horseman vs. Liberty[edit]

Can we please remove the reference to the Statue of Liberty? There are so many famous monuments around the world that the Bronze Horseman may be compared to, so why does it have to be the Statue of Liberty?? KNewman 06:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Unreferenced" tag[edit]

I looked at the long list of good references and removed the "unreferenced" tag from the article. If there are statements needing verification, the {{fact}} tag on the individual statement is a better one. --Alvestrand 09:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Benois' illustration[edit]

This is an illustration to "Peterburg" by Bely actually —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.177.138.109 (talk) 00:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hand[edit]

The roman hand from which a contemporary dutch source (Hendrik van Wijn, Historische en letterkundige avondstonden 1800) reads that it was sent to russia to serve as example for the statue of Peter the Great, has a different shape than I can see on the photograph of the present statue: the roman hand is pointing and the current hand of the statue is flat, is there any source that mentions damage and replacement? Hans Erren (talk) 20:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Stonecutters" link redirects wrong[edit]

Hi, I noticed this and don't know how to change it, so I'm posting it here:

The link to "Stonecutters" in the Thunder Stone section leads to a Simpsons episode Wikipedia article. I think it should probably lead to the page about stone masonry.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.225.144 (talk) 05:34, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out. I've fixed it. Oreo Priest talk 22:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not "Also the name of a narrative poem"[edit]

"The Bronze Horseman" isn't really "also the name of a narrative poem" but is came from the name of Aleksandr Pushkin's narrative poem. He's first who called the statue "The Bronze Horseman".

Right, the sentence immediately after that one explains that. Oreo Priest talk 17:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if under "4. Poem" at the end of that section it would be of interest to add something like:

The statue itself has been seen as the inspiration or model for a similar statue in Joseph Conrad’s 1904 political novel Nostromo, thus implicitly linking the political events in Nostromo with Conrad’s 1905 essay “Autocracy and War” on the subject of Russia and his eventual 1912 novel Under Western Eyes (and also with the Pushkin poem and with the political issue of Poland).[1] It is a big part of the symbolism of the Novel. What do you all think? FXONeill (talk) 19:52, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Cairney, Christopher (2004). "Pushkin, Mickiewicz, and 'The Horse of Stone' in Nostromo". Conradian. 29 (2): 110–115.

Image replaced[edit]

I replaced the current intro image with a higher resolution larger image which includes the Thunder stone. If this is a problem, please let me know. Thanks.-Godot13 (talk) 03:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's not perfect, because it faces the edge of the page instead of the text. Still an improvement though, I think. Oreo Priest talk 17:19, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What is a Thunder Stone ?[edit]

Web search yielded no answer, in Wikipedia or elsewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.159.203.73 (talk) 10:10, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's the name given to this statue's pedestal. It's not a general term. Oreo Priest talk 15:39, 23 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Largest Stone Ever Moved?[edit]

In the lead it states "claimed to be the largest stone ever moved by man", but under the Thunder Stone section it states "The Thunder Stone IS the largest stone ever moved by man" We should get rid of the contradiction. Dkspartan1 (talk) 10:05, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. The hedging was added long ago by an editor who wasn't comfortable with the claim, but it is supported by good evidence. I've fixed it. Oreo Priest talk 22:43, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
It should be reported that now the stone weighs approximately 400 tons, and it was heavily carved at the beginning of its voyage ([1]. So this is not "the largest stone ever moved by man" by any means. As an example, the stones composing the trilithon at Baalbek (Lebanon) weigh about 800 tons each, and they were surely moved by man because they lie on a wall of smaller blocks. Nearby there's also a 1,200 tons big block abandoned in a quarry after extraction. About this we can rightly say that it is "claimed to be the largest stone ever moved by man".

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