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List of British Rail Class 52 locomotives merge[edit]

List of British Rail Class 52 locomotives is basically a duplicate of British Rail Class 52#Names and numbers. Suggest one way or the other they be combined. For mine, merge the list into the article. Ligtomet (talk) 08:19, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. It's mostly repetition, and better merged into the parent article. Timothy Titus ^{Talk To TT} 11:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Seconded Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:50, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 22:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Western Legion(n)aire[edit]

Regarding D1029, the article twice shows that it was originally named Western Legionaire [sic], but renamed Western Legionnaire in 1969, the nameplate being cut to allow the additional letter to be inserted., it's cited to Walker, M (September 2002). "Loco profile of the Westerns". The Marlow Donkey (101): 8–10.. I have discovered a contrary source: Reed, Brian (1978) [1975]. Diesel-Hydraulic Locomotives of the Western Region. Newton Abbot: David & Charles. p. 73. ISBN 0-7153-6769-2. which shows the original name as Western Legionnaire with a footnote Ran from about 9/1967 with nameplate reading Western Legionaire. One of them must be wrong. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:26, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I know for article purposes we don't accept Flickr due WP:SPS, but here it is in 1974 with "NN" in the nameplate. 10mmsocket (talk) 22:40, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Knowle and Dorridge rail crash[edit]

The entry under Incidents concerning the Knowle and Dorridge rail crash is cited to the Ministry of Transport accident report, but that report does not mention the identity of the locomotive, simply saying The locomotive was a Class D 1000 diesel-hydraulic with C-C wheel arrangement; this type of locomotive has two 1350 H.P. Mayhach engines and Voith transmission, and weighs 108 tons in working order. Clearly a Class 52, but which one? There has been some long-term edit-warring on the matter. Unless the locomotive can be positively identified from another reliablesource, I propose that we remove both number and name.

Similarly, the sentence The locomotive was repaired and returned to service. is also not supported by the cited source, although this must have happened because none of these locos were withdrawn from service until 1973. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:26, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The number shows up clearly in photos taken at the time. 11th image in gallery. The confusion over the number is because the current operators of 1062 renamed and renumbered the loco temporarily to commemorate the three loco crew killed in the crash. Severn Valley Railway I've added the ref to the article Murgatroyd49 (talk) 11:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]