Talk:Brian Eley

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highbeam link has disappeared[edit]

...and it can't be found on the wayback machine either. What do we do now? Needless to say this is a serious thing to be including in a BLP. MaxBrowne (talk) 06:15, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of reliable sources on death[edit]

This article sums up the problem - findagrave is self-published and not reliable for the purposes of wikipedia. Whatever you may think of the guy we're still dealing with a WP:BLP here. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 17:40, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A couple more relevant links (but not RS): Fiona Pitt-Kethley, English Chess forum thread. For whatever reason, mainstream media don't want to touch it. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 18:58, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly because they don't have a credible source either? 'Some guy you've probably never heard of may possibly be dead' isn't much of a headline. AndyTheGrump (talk) 11:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps someone in the chess world should pitch the story to local journalists. Surely there's an investigative reporter somewhere aching to crack the case. --Animalparty! (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Link to discussion on WP:BLPN: [1] AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:19, 5 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.thearticle.com/brian-eley-the-jimmy-savile-of-chess?fbclid=IwAR1OAZ8qGXCBdlIlF49OMuBizz4hja8Zj9NhjDCJWyONBzO5ymIf4UPpY1I cheers, Michael C. Price ^talk 23:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked at RSN if TheArticle can be considered a reliable source for this purpose. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 02:21, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, the ESN discussion was somewhat inconclusive, though we now seem to be citing Pitt-Kethley anyway. [2] I've just removed a second citation for Eley's death to a 'satirical chess magazine' website, as that clearly isn't WP:RS. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:07, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kingpin magazine as source[edit]

AndyTheGrump objects to the use of the Kingpin chess magazine, since it is a "satirical" publication. However, I find a clear separation between facts and satire in Kingpin, whose issues I happen to possess in their entirety. (They're not that many.) The satire can be brutal and disrespectful, as satire often is, but there is no record of the magazine being inaccurate in its reportage (not everything is meant as a joke). I would like the categorisation of Kingpin as essentially an unreliable source to be assessed by the editing community. -The Gnome (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want the editing community to assess KIngpin's reliability, I suggest you ask at WP:RSN. Providing evidence that it has "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:34, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That should work. -The Gnome (talk) 07:46, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Replied there [3] AndyTheGrump (talk) 09:29, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]