Talk:Brazilian literature/Archive 1

Archive 1

Portuguese

There is a small, but important, amount of Brazilian literature written in Tupi, should I add José de Anchieta plays and poetry to this article? Bruno Gripp 02:18, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Romanticism

Iracema

The name Iracema is referenced in the penultmate setence of the Romanticism section. No article exists for this name although a link exists. I was going to create a stub with something like "Iracema is a name used in the liturature of <link to author's name> and <link to author's name> as an anagram for America to represent the new world." Would this be sufficient to create a stub? Are there ready template of headings and such that could be copied and pasted to create the stub? What should I have asked about this that I didn't ask?

If I have created this page incorrectly, please let me know. Vivafelis 05:57, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Initial entry for Iracema created. Vivafelis 16:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

20th Century Brazilian Literature

This article needs a major updating as far as 20th century Brazilian literature is concerned. To begin with, some of the most important Brazilian writers like Guimarães Rosa, Clarice Lispector, and Carlos Drummond de Andrade are not even mentioned !

Paulo Coelho

The present entry on Paulo Coelhor reads:

"Paulo Coelho is the all time best-selling Portuguese language author. Despite the fact that he is still seen by many critics in Brazil as a lesser author, whose work is said to be too simple and similar to self-help books, few of them would argue that he somehow managed to identify and address themes which connect to people across cultures in a more or less universal way."

That's a false opposition. Self-help books do "identify and address themes connecting people across cultures in a more or less universal way". Paulo Coelho is not only seen in Brazil as a self-help author, but as a typical bad literature gone best-seller, much like Sidney Sheldon or Stephen King. Bad literature for the ignorant masses.

To further complicate the matter, Brazil lacks a literary criticism stabilishment well known to the public. No equivalent of a Harold Bloom. We are left with general feelings, snipets from comments from journalists, and the like. Fact still is, if you are in the intelectual elite in Brazil, you don't want to be caught dead with a Paulo Coelho book in your hands.

All things considered, I'm editing the paragraph to disconnect the two considerations: Paulo Coelho's universal (mass) appeal, and universal disdain by the critics. Ricardo Dirani (talk) 15:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

For an article that doesn't even mention Érico Veríssimo or Jorge Amado, extending that much about this insignificant charlatan is totally out of proportion.

Oh, and the comparisons to Sheldon or King are problematic. Sheldon doesn't know how to write, to the point of ridiculous; and King is the opposite of Coelho - he doesn't write as well, but at least he has something to tell, while Coelho packs his complete lack of content in an agreeable way. Ninguém (talk) 18:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Augusto Mario Caldeira Brant AKA Helena Morley

Although not considered "great literature" this article would be improved by the inclusion of the classic diary of Senhora Augusto Mario Caldeira Brant, written in Diamantina in years 1893-1895, and published in 1942 as Minha vida de menina. As of Feb. 2011, the book remains in print in Brazil. The English translation by Elizabeth Bishop entitled he Diary of Helena Morley also remains in print. Frankatca (talk) 23:05, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Problems in the article: January 2017

• Lack of mention of parnasianismo - an important poetic movement dominant before the "Semana de 22". (there's a photo of Olavo Bilac, he's also mentioned in the lead, and one other mention of him in Realism but no mention of his works, style)
• Machado de Assis is not really Realism. Realism is the style derived mainly from Balzac, Naturalism the style from Émile Zola. Machado does not follow these and is classifies as "Pre-modernist" - at least in his "second phase". Memorias postúmas, is notably unrealistic - it features large doses of irony, a dead narrator.
• The "Romance de 30" writers are said to be a "desdobramento" of modernism, but many weren't really "modernist" in a proper sense of the term at all. Socialist realism can be used to describe Jorge Amado's novels much better than "modernism".
• Regionalismo is not featured in the current article, it was a significant movement with regards to novels.
• Monteiro Lobato's children's literature is pretty important. Is it considered within "brazilian literature"?

--User:Dwarf Kirlston - talk 04:39, 29 January 2017 (UTC)