Talk:Bombing of Kassa

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Worth more.[edit]

The situation is not so simple. It could have been the USSR by mistake (quite likely), USSR (Cheka) by clandestine intent (highly unlikely), the nazi germans (highly unlikely), the hungarians themselves (highly unlikely), the romanians (somewhat likely) or somebody from the former Yugoslavia or former Czech-Slovakia (highly unlikely).

This is a very complex mistery and quite significant for the 20th century history of Hungary as our entry in the WII ended with total failure and huge destruction. I wrote the extensive hungarian Wikipedia entry for this topic and will port it to english here soon. 82.131.210.162 (talk) 15:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

          Still waiting..... ;)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.232.95.185 (talk) 06:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Andrej Andele and Soviet biplanes[edit]

I was reading this article and thought I would check out the source (Hungarian Studies Review, Vol. X, No. 1 (Spring 1983)) as the following seemed odd to me:

"In 1942, a report was made that a Hungarian officer, billeted in a house in a town of occupied Soviet Union, learned that an earlier occupant of his room had been one Andrej Andele, a Czech-born pilot of the Soviet Air Force, who had openly admitted his part in the raid on Kassa. This theory was shut down as well, due to the fact that the aircraft that bombed Kassa were twin-engined monoplanes. The Soviet Air Force did not have this kind of aircraft, but had biplanes. "

I thought this was odd simply due to the fact that by 1941 the Soviets had a fair few twin engine monoplanes that could fit the bill. The closest thing I could find to supporting that is actually talking about the Slovakian Airforce:

"...which the culprits were neither German nor Russian, but Slovak pilots —flying stolen German planes —on their way to the Soviet Union. 9 This hypothesis is interesting but there are several problems with it, the foremost being the "stolen" planes and the Russian bombs. And Slovak pilots could hardly have carried out the raid in their own planes as their country's air force was equipped almost exclusively with aircraft that were very different in appearance from the ones seen above Kassa during the raid."

Whilst looking I also couldn't find any mention of Andrej Andele (Though I found scant reference in the other 1972 reference), the only mention of Czechs was this:

"Lakatos also tells that before this version gained general acceptance, certain Hungarian sources attributed the bombing to a Czech officer in the Soviet air force who had been fired from his job in the Kassa post office when the city had been returned to Hungary by the First Vienna Award of the fall of 1938 —an unlikely story."

I propose that the first half of the last paragraph in the article is rewritten to clear up these two separate theories on who perpetrated the bombing, as currently the article seems to mix up the source material accidentally.

Azhini (talk) 12:21, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]