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Comment, Please

Hey, guys. Blue Screen of Death is only a registry error. I put the FIX on the comment section, and have tested myself that in approximately 6 BSOD I have ever had Registry scanner by EWIDO, which is free, fixed 100% of time -Blue screen completely gone, no errors, does not come back for at least one year. Why is the guy keep deleting this post, this fix is perfecto and simple. Ginbot keeps removing my post with simple fix. Something I am missing, or is he just being a fail poster? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.205.240 (talk) 15:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

First of all, no personal attacks. Second, this Registry scanner, it cannot stay here because a) there's no verifiable sourcing saying that it actually works (and original research doesn't count) and b) having a dedicated 'section' for a purported fix is not going to cut it for an encyclopedia, especially if the section name is 'Simple Fixes'. These aren't my rules, it's Wikipedia policy. GB86 19:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
It's pretty clear that there are other causes than registry faults. This source says hardware faults (missing or incompatible hardware device drivers) are the main cause, and in my experience that's certainly been the case: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/fixtheproblem/ht/stoperrors.htm Stephen Poppitt (talk) 10:21, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


I Made this word up joking around at Directwave computers in early 90s when I was at the end of the line checking systems Pier Shaw

Emily Dickinson

Did Emily Dickinson prophesy the BSOD? See for yourself. The last stanza of her poem "I heard a Fly buzz when I died": "With Blue--uncertain stumbling Buzz-- Between the light--and me-- And then the Windows failed--and then I could not see to see--" --Xparasite9 02:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC) O_O That is....weird....I don't know.Shindo9Hikaru 02:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Eerie. It could be that some of her other writing holds portent of things to come. -- some dude.

Replication of Win 98 RSOD

This page has been very helpful in my personal PC reference archive. Using a picture linked to earlier and the windows 98 BSOD, i recreated the Win-98 RSOD. Sorry of it is a bit sketchy, all i have to work with is MSPAINT. http://www.maj.com/gallery/toast-of-demise/Other77/win98rsodrecreationv2.bmp

I still have a machine that runs Windows 98 (98SE actually), and I've suffered a bluescreen on it occasionally - but in 12 years I've never seen any colour of STOP error screen on 98 except blue. Stephen Poppitt (talk) 10:17, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

WinVista RSOD

I think the article is wrong about RSOD removed from Vista. I got it once with the final build because my bootloader got corrupted. -- (cncxbox) 00:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

PS3 "Blue Screen"

Anyone actually read the article? This definatly isnt an example of a BSoD, its just the PS3 dev kit crashing while displaying blue water. Even the article says its not a BSoD. Im going to remove it, hope that doesnt annoy anyone, doesnt seem to serious to drop. John.n-irl 15:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

How to get the number on the blue screen of death

My laptop randomly has it occur and it's for a split second then it goes black and restarts itself. Should I sit with a camera next to me and hope I get it? Or what? Also, I archived the talk page...it was way too long. Bsroiaadn 03:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

  • I read the article and it mentioned a kernel debugger. I've looked online, but I haven't found much..and the stuff I have found isn't explained very well. I'm not gonna lie, I don't know much about DOS or .ddl's or any of that. Is there any website that will easily explain it in a way I could understand or maybe if someone here could help me out? Or maybe even an application that could do all the work for me? Bsroiaadn 03:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, not sure how I neglected to mention this. I have Windows XP Media Center Edition on my laptop. I did the winver check and this is the exact version "Microsoft Windows Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300 : Service Pack 2)" just incase it's needed to get that specific. I have an HP laptop, don't remember the exact model name right now...but I'm not sure if that's very important. Bsroiaadn 04:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)


This is a problem that most users of Windows XP Professional have. If you don't have XP Professional, there is something wrong with your computer. However, if you do have Professional, try this.
1. Click Start > Run and type C:\WINDOWS\system32\sysdm.cpl
2. Click OK
3. In the dialog that follows, click the Advanced tab
4. Under the section titled Startup and Recovery, click Settings
5. Under the section titled System Failure, uncheck Automatically restart
6. Click OK
7. Click OK again
8. Restart your computer
Every BSoD should now appear and allow you to collect the error information.
NOTE: These steps may not work on previous versions of Windows, but it wouldn't hurt to give it a try!
--FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 04:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It does work on all versions of Windows XP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GT4GTR (talk • contribs) 00:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


The correct way would be to press F8 before the XP splash screen appears and select "disable automatic restart" - ManicD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.202.44 (talk) 15:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

BSOD still exist in Vista

Blue Screen of Death still persist in released versions of vista as I encountered this problem numerous times after installing fresh copy and a upgrade copy AbsoluteMSTR 05:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)(GUYS ITS A ISSUE WITH RAM. ONE OF MY RAM WAS FAULTY I CHANGED, NOW ITS RUNNING PERFECT.)

You might be looking at this wrong -- Blue Screen of Death is a FEAURE included standard with all versions of MS Vista. It is proprietary and protected by copyright, user-friendly and no other operating system yet has it!! =-) -me

Yeah, I got the BSOD after one month and I was watching a video on youtube and opened iTunes, then I got the BSOD. User:Patrolman89

I got it about 10 minutes after i first turned it on, vista rules dont it (that is sarcasim) 75.36.231.146 (talk) 06:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Yep, it does. I got it last night, probably from having way too much stuff running at once. This article needs some work about BSoD in Vista. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.27.130 (talk) 22:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I just got a BSoD after installing Vista SP1 from Windows Update. I can't access to anything! Can someone help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.200.52 (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Bsod stills exist in Windows 7, i accidentally plug of the power supply of my laptop while hibernating, and comes up with Bsod when i turn it back on, and disappeared when i delete the resume. --WCLL HK (talk) 03:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

RSOD

When it mentions that RSOD's occured rarely in 98 and Memphsis, isnt that kind of repeating its self as Memphsis was the codename for 97 wich was renamed 98.

Robotboy2008 09:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

BSoD on futuristic toaster

I feel that that picture is a joke. There are two reasons:
1. Why would a "futuristic" toaster display a BSoD from Windows 98?
2. Why would a toaster have a screen in the first place?
And it is obviously a joke, which doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article.
--FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 18:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Windows XP BSoD

Shouldn't there be a screen shot of a BSoD occurring in Windows XP? It seems we've got every single one (even Vista's RSoD and Windows CE's BSoD), but we don't have one from the Windows operating system most in use today: Windows XP. I would upload one, but I don't have any good ones (the "Print Screen" key doesn't work when your computer crashes, and my camera isn't good at taking screen shots).
--FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 05:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I had done this earlier but I saw that it was reverted. Adding again. rohith 21:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

I think that it is wonderful that we have all the pictures, but for me using either Firefox 2 or IE 7, there are massive amounts of space between the text. Removing some of the pictures fixes this problem, but it feels more like a work-around than a solution. Is there a solution? --Nick2253

I think the pictures are too much. At the resolution they display on the page, the screenshots of BSODs for various operating systems all look similar. They are redundant and make the page look cluttered. Unless there is something very special about each one that would be lost if the image were gone, I think the page could stand to go down to one or two BSOD screenshots.
The large number of pictures close together also makes the article look bad. It may be helpful to align some of the images on the left instead of having them all on the right to obtain a more balanced look. Additionally, most have migrated to where they aren't even near to the text they are relevant to at the resolution I am viewing in (1680x1050.)
Finally, a large majority of the copyrighted screenshots do not have a fair-use rationale for this page as required by WP:FU and are thus subject to removal from the page if such rationale is not provided. Infernal Inferno 21:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

How do people take screen shots of the BSOD anyway? What capture utility works when your computer is crashed? 24.23.212.36 07:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

You need to use a video capture card that can receive VGA, or otherwise use a virtual machine. --Sigma 7 07:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

It's easier just to use a camera. [1] --Randomuser42 (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I think that you just download the fake BSOD and capture the fake screen, the fake blue screen will be a screen saver. It should work. Computer tech0001 (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

BSOD or BSoD

I think that the article should use one form, but seeing as the term is used both ways in the article, I'm not sure which way we should go --Nick2253

I don't think it really matters. tomato or Tomato. What's the difference? Not much. Ginbot86 (talk) 07:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Citation needed tag on the 98 demo BSOD section

Is that really needed? I mean come on, your new flagship consumer OS is being demonstrated to the world press and the very first thing you try and show off, the system bluescreens. Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious there was some major egg/face interaction for Microsoft there. --Flapjackboy 23:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)


how to fix it

shouldn't it be included how to fix the blue screen of death

i just think that it could be pretty useful.--Dlo2012 (talk) 03:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

There isn't just one solution that will fix any blue screen of death. If you search for the error message on the internet, you will come across many solutions that way. Entbark (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure, and maybe someone could update the Internet page with information on why my connection is slow. Manys (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

It says to press any key. Yeah, that seems self-explaning. 99.230.152.143 (talk) 02:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Would this help? I'm determined to make a useful contribution.

Took this in Windows 3.1 Using MS Virtual PC 2007 3.1 BSOD W/ No malfunctioning program Maiq the liar (talk) 01:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS terminated for you? Weird. I'm not sure if you should put this up yet, as I don't know how many other people got this error. - PGSONIC (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

No, i just pressed Control+alt+delete in the VM when nothing was wrong. it's the friendliest BSOD i've seen... Maiq the liar (talk) 23:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Xbox 360 RRoD picture?

Why is there a picture of the Xbox 360 "Red Ring of Death" in the article when that particular phenomenon isn't even mentioned in the article?70.236.32.155 (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Removed picture. Entbark (talk) 14:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Microsoft's most successful program

That isn't mentioned in this article, it should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.142.233 (talk) 16:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

"EGA" colors

Might be nitpicking.... but I've changed all mentions of "EGA" colors in the Display section to say "CGA" instead - the 16 colors come from the CGA, as can be seen in the CGA color palette, and that's where their hex numbering originated. The EGA has a default palette of 16 colors (out of 64) that were set up to match the CGA ones, but the actual EGA color table is quite different, and the color numbers don't match. 77.127.164.59 (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

DS BSOD?

It said in the article about the colours that some DS's turn Magenta, this is what mine does. It also mentioned a Blue one, but my Sister's turns a Pale Yellow, does anyone know what version this is? I think it should also be mentioned that it happens when a GBA game is removed. (GT4GTR (talk) 12:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC))

Mine turns yellow ether way 81.79.229.3 (talk) 15:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Wait a minute...

Some OS BSOD's are missing. I think BetaCommandBot had them deleted. Anybody have a replacement? Ginbot86 (talk) 07:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Causes

I can't help thinking there is too much focus on power issues in the causes, and thta several aspects of this enumeration are redundant in any case. The 220/240V issue is a nonsense - switched mode PSUS are much more tolerant to voltage variations than that, and any supply that couldn't cope with such a difference is faulty already. Then you have faulty memory... intermittent power to HDDs... faulty hardware. Surely faulty memory and intermittent power are faulty hardware anyway and do not need listing separately. In breaking down the list and 'repeating' items in this way it puts undue emphasis on hardware faults for causing BSoDs. CrispMuncher (talk) 19:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I once kicked my CPU out of computer rage, which caused the computer to restart and display the BSoD. I don't kno if it's just my computer, or if that occurs on many other computers. Montgomery' 39 17:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montgomery '39 (talk • contribs)


biggest blue screen of death at olympic games

about 40meters at Beijing Olympic games opening http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1268/bsodjo03gk1.jpg maybe it's worth to mention __-_-_-__ 17:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Notable events with BSoD occurrences

Add new section detailing on big events where BSoDs have occurred? Such as a few Microsoft conferences, a Dell conference, and the 2008 Olympic Opening Ceremony? -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs 07:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

And the Deepwater Horizon explosion according to NY Times ("Problems existed from the beginning of drilling the well, Mr. Williams said. For months, the computer system had been locking up, producing what the crew called the “blue screen of death.”"). // Liftarn (talk)

Useless

I'll just say: Why is there so many useless stuff here(in the article)? Maybe some of it should be deleted... Anyone bold enough to do it?

I mean really, who cares about screens of death on the Wii, when it says it only pops up while using homebrew software?

Seriously?! 76.173.217.110 (talk) 21:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

That is because the BSOD article is not specific to Windows. Ginbot86 (talk) 03:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it should? Seriously. It's not as bad idea as it may sound. Let's make it Windows-specific. And add a short section "Other Windows error screens". If anybody is looking for other blue screens, we redirect them to Screens of death. If you think the title wouldn't be appropriate then, we can move this article to "Fatal errors in Microsoft Windows" or something like that. Ian (87.205.182.113 (talk) 16:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC))
I removed the In Popular Culture Section. Does that help? I Feel Tired (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

BSOD is also being used in several publications to refer to algal blooms that are more and more of a problem with a warmer climate. The algal blooms quickly multiply and cover the lake or reservoir with a blue (cyan, from cyanobacteria) layer or "screen" which chokes the oxygen content from the water and is usually fatal to life underneath if not cleared up. It seems that borrowing the computer term for BSOD just caught on with researchers perhaps as an inside-joke. It has no official standing in the scientific community of course. The irony is of course algal-blooms were the original blue screen of death and computers simply continued this trend. http://m.treehugger.com/Business_and_Politics/477666/full/;jsessionid=361A054109E5715C313BCCE18C59DB79.treehugger2#_details477666 Buoya (talk) 06:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

BSOD text quotations

Should the text on the blue screens be quoted on the page? Ginbot86 (talk) 05:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

No, not really for 2 reasons. The first being almost everyone has gotten one and the second is if one really wanted to see what the screen had to say the images are in high enough resolution for the viewer to read them. Also, this would add unnecessary bulk to the article as almost every version of Windows has had different text. Deathwish644 22:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Game Boy Advance heading

The Game Boy Advance 'blue screen' should be removed from this article as it does not match the original heading of the article. Removal of the cartridge only results in a frozen screen derived from the source of data being removed. No methods are called to prevent damage or to gently let the user down. Deathwish644 22:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Most commonly MS Win NPOV

The article says "displayed by some operating systems, most notably Microsoft Windows", and while I know this to be true, I don't think it needs to be included in an encyclopedic article. I feel that despite the obvious truth to it, it doesn't follow NPOV. Does anyone agree with me? --Sauronjim (talk) 15:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Shorten?

Should this article be shorten? All SoD pages has been shorted and I suggest that this article be shorted to synchronize between other articles (wp:Article size) and WP:NPOV (per up of me). The Junk Police (reports|works) 03:28, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Media Player Crash

Once, I was partying around with my dad on Windows Media Player, my dad was on Windows XP, and I was on Windows 98. Then, the XP got a blue screen of death. WHY????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.97.59 (talk) 18:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

~Anonymous~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.2.201 (talk) 16:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a forum to discuss about BSODs themselves; this talkpage is for the article only. That said, have you tried various support forums online? GB86 23:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Formating and infromation errors

I made some edits one or two days ago, but they were treated as vandalism and reverted. So I'll raise the problems I adressed in those edits here:

  1. BSoD is only the term for Windows, and maybe some other specific systems. Unix-like systems, among others, do not display a blue screen on error. OS X shows a little box with text telling you to restart, providing no other information, and Linux does produce an error dump screen, but it's a regular terminal, with black background, just to name a few.
  2. Ubuntu is based on Linux, so "Linux/Ubuntu based operating systems" is a redundancy.
  3. Mac OS X is based on BSD. I reckon it's easier to merge all these systems into one Unix-like category, since they all call the error screen "kernel panic". Older Machintosh systems may be added, but they still don't display a blue screen.
  4. At the end of the article, there is a piece of information repeated, with some formating errors. I think somebody accidentally copied and pasted it.--190.247.216.148 (talk) 01:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

BSoD may be shown in graphical mode (with evidence)

In Windows NT-based operating systems, the blue screen of death (which is displayed in 80-column 50-line text mode) occurs when the kernel, or a driver running in kernel mode, encounters any error from which it cannot recover.

The system crashed after Internet Explorer finished loading a webpage. Operating system is Windows 7 in Traditional Chinese (Hong Kong).

219.73.26.135 (talk) 12:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Most Common Cause

The most common cause could be the ungraceful shutdown of the computer. Such as for example a blackout, pressing and holding power button, or just simply unplugging it while on. The-novice-editor (talk) 20:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

A Bluescreen By Any Other Color

Can be added, perhaps... http://blogs.technet.com/b/markrussinovich/archive/2010/12/14/3374820.aspx --Dennis714 (talk) 11:58, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

 Done Fleet Command (talk) 09:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Slight Rewrites Needed

Considering the article name as of now, I believe that the article should reference "STOP Errors", instead of "BSoDs." I can handle this.

Mooshykris (talk) 06:29, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

This move has already happened and has been reverted once. No point in doing it again. --76.191.220.147 (talk) 04:36, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Delete list of errors

Hi.

I propose list of errors to be deleted. Wikipedia is not a directory after all. We can maintain an external link to Microsoft's directory of errors on MSDN.

Regards, Fleet Command (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

  • I agree. I think this list has been transwiki'd anyway. Ian (212.87.13.73 (talk) 13:25, 24 October 2011 (UTC))
  • Disagree. This page is linked directly to quite a few different pages on the site and many also off site. It may not be a dictionary, but that doesn't mean it can't be thorough. Lostinlodos (talk) 20:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I agree with Lostin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.96.56.163 (talk) 17:09, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
    • Wikipedia is not governed by voting. And Lostin did not dispute the fact that the section actually violates WP:NOTDIR. Please state a valid policy-based reason to keep these contents; otherwise, I am afraid violation of WP:NOTDIR, which is a pillar of Wikipedia, as well as your edit warring, is unacceptable. I await your response. Fleet Command (talk) 08:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
      • Firstly. I was not 'Edit Warring' Like you claim. I was reverting a change which at the time had 2 to 2 against it. The table is for you to show what an error means, I hardly see that as a 'NOTDIR' It is one of main point of the page and I'm sure is why 70% of people who visit (Like Me) visit. 81.96.56.163 (talk)
        • Wikipedia is not democracy. Even if one billion want this section, WP:NOTDIR still says Wikipedia does not list such detailed stuff. "Wikipedia is not a directory of everything that exists in the world or has existed". And you are not the only edit warrior who thinks he is not edit warring because his point of view is right. If you have read a Wikipedia policy that supports this section, please point me to it. Otherwise, next time, please visit Microsoft website for blue screen errors, not Wikipedia. I await your response, but not forever. Fleet Command (talk) 07:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
          • Please link me to a Microsoft page that has all the errors and there meanings on 1 page and then maybe I'll listen 81.96.56.163 (talk) 14:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
            • See the Further reading section of the article and you will see it. However, I have initiated a Mediation Cabal case. You can have your say there. Fleet Command (talk) 05:32, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm a mediator at the Mediation Cabal (but there is no cabal) and saw this dispute listed there. I'm afraid that due to real world obligations that I do not have time to accept the mediation, but I do have some observations which might prove useful. It is not so clear to me that the list violates WP:NOTDIR or any other section of WP:NOT. If one examines each of the 8 subsections of WP:NOTDIR and applies it to the situation at hand, in my opinion none of them clearly and cleanly fits. If I am correct in that assessment, then there is no clear policy objection to the list and its removal, having been challenged, must be supported by consensus. At the same time, I do feel that the list is excessive and inappropriate (especially, but not only, when certain sections would be so voluminous that they have been marked "Omitted to save space", which is a meta-comment entirely inappropriate for the body of an article), and I join the building consensus to remove the list. But I do so neither because it violates policy nor because the proponents of the section fail to cite a policy that supports its inclusion (WP:V supports its inclusion, but not everything which is verifiable should be included). Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 15:39, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm not a mediator or anything else, but just happened to notice this discussion, on a topic I know nothing whatever about. I'd like to offer a simple solution: the list is overlarge in the article, so split it off and give it a list name, say List of Blue Screen of Death error codes. The article will look like an article, the list will look like a list, nothing will be lost. I hope this may be of some help. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:57, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Umm, I remember it already being done, after which the article was moved to Wikibooks and then probably deleted from there, because I cannot find it now. It is still there: wikibooks:Transwiki:List of Windows bugcheck codes. Ian (87.205.138.74 (talk) 09:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC))
Please note that this matter is being discussed at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/31 October 2011/Blue Screen of Death. -- Scjessey (talk) 17:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Is Microshaft still blaming the users?

In all the incarnations of Windoze I've seen (2, 3, 95, 88, NT, ME, 2K, XP and 7), Microshaft blamed the user on a restart after the BSOD:

"Windoze was not shut down properly"

This despite the fact that nearly every time Windoze crashed it was an OS screwup, not an act of the user. Has Microshaft stopped doing that? Or are they still avoiding responsibility for their poor programming? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.248.187.2 (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

This particular message is merely the first step of system diagnostics options available for Windows. If BSOD was the cause of the restart then Last Known Good Configuration might be a good load option or the Safe Mode. After 2 years of using Windows & I have never encountered this screen due to a system crash, I have never enven encountered a system crash. It mostly happens when I power off the system, as against shutting it down.-Wikishagnik (talk) 05:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Is it really called a Blue Screen of Death?

Just a question, i'll probably take this off the talk page after I read the answer.

Is it actually called a Blue Screen of Death? it doesn't sound very professional, or even standard. It sounds pretty ridiculous, just as if a child would say "spinning blades of doom". Not saying that only children say that phrase, but it doesn't sound like something an adult would say. usually, phrases that end in "of doom" or "of death" or something usually make me think of cartoons or video games. Mabye thats just me, mabye i'm wrong, mabye it is the actual name of the blue screen. But hey, no harm in asking, right?....right? 24.15.53.225 21:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Blue Screen of Death is more of a slang term used by computer people. I believe that when you get the BSOD it is called a fatal error, but it's been so long since I've gotten one that I forget--Cadet hastings 14:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
If it is actually called a "fatal error" (which would make sense, as it is literally a fatal error) then shouldn't the article mention that it is so? Wikipedia is kind of about telling the real names of things and briefly mentioning the slang, instead of referring to things as the slang and mentioning it in it's proper form. And in this case, there is no mention of it at all. I wouldn't have asked the question if I had found something in the article that told me it's actual name is fatal error. and once again it also makes wikipedia sound more professional if it uses it's actual name--for now, blue screen of death is fine as long as someone mentions it's actual name is a fatal error, but a real encyclopedia would actually have the title of the page "fatal error" 24.15.53.225 20:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
A fatal error is a bit of a vague term which can be used for a range of error messages. Blue Screen of Death is the most widely used term to describe it (see here, even Microsoft MCSEs use it) but the official name for at least the Windows NT-based BSODs is a "Windows Stop Error" or a variant thereof. -- Will 23:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, BSOD is slang. The official term is a "STOP" error, but even some of Microsoft's own documentation uses "Blue Screen Of Death" Manys (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

in some old programing languages there are commande ie .die ( prolog or DOS i cant remember of the top of my head)

THATS THE JOKE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.17.249 (talk) 05:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

The main reason people continue to refer to it as blue screen of death and not a stop error is the fact that when it usually happens to you it feels like a fate worse than death. It explains exactly how the user feels when they see it in front of them!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.249.216.93 (talk) 08:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

It is acctually called a Stop Error by Microsoft but people call it the Blue Screen of Death cause whan you never saw it before and suddenly it appears infront of them it scared them to death! (That acctually happened to me at midnight while saving my webs.com site) ANd alot of times this screen may nearly 'kill' the computer! I just use the term BSOD beacuse it siunds cool!lol! Computer tech0001 (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

yes it is a stop error, and yes it is mainlly called "blue screen of death" i still think the artical should use the proper name and "bsod" should redirect here Jalex3 (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC) The name has a significance. The Blue Screen is quite unique and no matter how comfortable you feel about it after reading the article, hopefully should never see in your life. The Of Death is quite applicable as this screen means the death of the things you do on this system and may probably require replacement of hardware or the re-installtion of the OS. -Wikishagnik (talk) 05:13, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Cleaned Up Section On Windows NT family

Hi, I have cleaned up the section a bit and updated it by creating a new section called Windows 8 and moving the info on the windows 8 blue screen there. I have also changed the caption in the picture of the windows 8 Blue screen by adding the consumer and release preview in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.151.58.135 (talk) 18:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Merging Articles

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The result of this discussion was to merge. Small and weak consensus. However, the RSoD article is currently in question for its notability. I went ahead and did it all things considered. Also interesting to note an earlier discussion which existed at Talk:Red Screen of Death/Archive 1#Merge to BSoD and that was a strong consensus to merge. v/r Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:42, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have just seen that it has been proposed to merge the Blue Screen of Death article with the Red Screen of Death. I will not physically do anything; however, I have a few suggestions about this: Either: 1. Merge all of the "Screen of Death" articles into one, with separate headers about each type (including subheaders for details etc) 2. Keep all of the Screen of Death articles as they are 3. Keep them in the current format, but make sure that there are links in the articles to each of the other screen of death articles. Eg on the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) article, like the Red Screen of Death (RSOD) and Black Screen of Death (KSOD) to the BSOD article, where it says "See also". The same for the other two articles. 4. Add a small section about the RSOD and KSOD to the BSOD article, with links to the full articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.60.90 (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

As the Red Screen of Death article was 1 line, I merged it completely, just under the NT Kernel section. Article merged: See old talk-page here -- 115.64.149.49 (talk) 11:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, but editors have to vote on proposals. Its the rule.Greg Heffley 21:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
OK, yes, editors are invited to participate in a discussion regarding a proposal to merge 2 articles, but that doesn't mean that editors have to !vote on them. I support the merger, and if no objections arise in the next few days/weeks I'll boldy merge it myself. Wikipedia's rules aren't set in stone, they can be changed at any time, and in some cases, ignored. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 04:36, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
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You deleted my image!!!

It was not nice to delete my image. I only put the image on Blue Screen of Death. But since you removed the image from the page, I used a new image with the file named BSoD in Windows 1.0.png. — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Pina (talk • contribs) 22:59, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

As I said in several places, what you are calling "your" image appears to be a copyright violation, the original being http://bsod.org/img/bsod545.gif. You need to address this over at Commons as I have placed a nomination for deletion on it there. Jeh (talk) 23:09, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

ARE YOU IN SAYING?!?!?!?!

You also removed the link to http://bsod.org/faqen.php. Now I have to re-add the link to http://bsod.org/faqen.php, and now you're saying that the sentence, "Please use Linux, because crashing computers are no fun!!!" is INAPPROPRIATE?!?!?!?! NO WAY!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Pina (talk • contribs) 02:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

The word is "insane". And yes, it's grossly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Please keep your own opinions on your own blog. As I explained above, the link itself isn't appropriate for an encyclopedia either, because the site it links to is both obsolete and of very low quality. Jeh (talk) 02:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Last month I got a BSoD when I play a DVD.

I got the error message detailing the STOP 0x0000008E KERNEL_MODE_EXEPTION_NOT_HANDLED message because the DVD was incompatible with Windows Vista because it was marked as "Not compatible with all devices."

What does this mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by William Pina (talk • contribs) 02:00, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Windows 3.1 disputed

I've added a "citation needed" to the section on Windows 3.1, because AFAIK Windows 3.1 did not have a Blue Screen of Death. (The control-alt-delete screen was blue, but it wasn't a screen of death.)

See also http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2014/09/09/10556049.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harryjohnston (talk • contribs) 01:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Possibly invalid information

Based on all pictures I found on the Internet, and my own testing on a VM, this is not true:

Until Windows Server 2012, BSoDs showed white text (CGA color code: 0x0F; HTML color code: #FFFFFF) on a navy blue background (CGA color code: 0x01; HTML color code: #0000AA)...

At least Windows XP's BSOD is (actual?) navy blue #000080.

--88.115.91.143 (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for noticing.
Actually, every single piece of evidence already out there says you are right: Navy blue article says "navy blue" is #000080. Color picker on Firefox, when tried on various screenshots in the article, reveals #000082. (Probably has to do with color management.) The only exception is Windows 2000 diagram which uses #0000FF (Full RGB blue) but that's probably a mock-up. Windows 9x screenshot shows #1A008E. That's extremely strange. I must verify it.
I will take remedial action.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 19:28, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Text color is also wrong. I cannot find white text color on any of the article screenshots; most of them are just D8D8D8, silver gray. It is possible to see white in File:BSoD in Windows NT.gif though. Maybe the graphic adapter has a lot more say in the nature of the color. For now, I've removed explicit color codes. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:26, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Include non-MS systems or not?

I'm thinking this article should either be moved to "Blue Screen of Death (Microsoft Windows)" (i.e. whole-screen fatal error messages from other platforms need to be discussed in other articles) or to "Whole-screen fatal error messages" (i.e. they're explicitly encouraged). I lean toward the former. Jeh (talk) 01:26, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi.
I have to say WP:COMMONNAME and the article contents do not endorse the latter. "BSOD" is a very popular name and "Whole-screen fatal error messages" is long, uncommon and not mindful of English collocations. ("Full-screen" vs. "whole-screen".) I say keep the status quo: The majority of the article is about Windows and the only part the is not dead on point is "§ Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard" and "§ iPhone 5S". Please remember: Featured Articles need to be comprehensive and these related coverages help comprehensiveness. The fact that some people might report obscure instance of other OSes showing blue screen (even though it is an accidental byproduct of the backlight) does not deter me. (I just revert those without due weight or reliable source. Of course, I reserve their right to engage in BRD process, discuss, prove and obtain a compromise.)
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 03:49, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Origin of the term

The text for the origin goes back to this anonymous edit [2] on 1-Oct-2007. But there is no citation or proof, or even a date. Worse, I suspect it is one person's recollection. Just because the person heard it while working at Lattice Inc, doesn't mean that Lattice Inc invented or popularised it. I propose writing instead that the origin is unknown, because an undated, uncited, untraceable attribution is potentially misleading, i.e. worse than useless. Adpete (talk) 01:37, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree with deleting the claim because of the absence of a source but to say "the origin is unknown" requires a source of its own. Fleet Command (talk) 10:41, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

The earliest USENET reference I can find is 3 December 1995. [3] But there might be earlier ones, if I can work out how to do a date search on Google Groups. Adpete (talk) 01:52, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Windows NT 3.1 was released even earlier than that. Maybe if one could find an NT 3.1 manual? Fleet Command (talk) 10:45, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't have any problem saying that the BSoD originated with Windows NT 3.1 (July 1993). The question is what, if anything, we should say about the origin of the term "Blue Screen of Death". I can see only two alternatives at the moment: (a) say nothing, or (b) mention the Usenet ref as evidence that it was in existence at least by 1995, even though it is (my) WP:OR. I'm happy with either, but either way the existing paragraph should be deleted. Adpete (talk) 00:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Names in the lead

Hi.

Jeh, I hope you are reading this, because it about your revision; i.e. about revision #656319525 and onward, which I reverted.

Let's start by the WP:COMMONNAME issue: The most commonly used name is chosen for the article title, yes. But auxiliary names should also be included in the article as both WP:GA and WP:FA require articles to be comprehensive. The threshold of selection is due weight.

Now, as for "bugcheck" and "stop error", yes one can say that a catastrophic system failure is not a screen with blue background and silver text. But that's not the point at all. I've seen it countless times that technical people forget how English language is spoken: Synecdoche. (God knows how many times I've heard someone argue that HTML5 and CSS3 are separate things and hence an HTML5 book must not contain CSS3 info!) Bugcheck, stop error and blue screen of death are all components of the same phenomenon and the last component is optional. (Some times a system is simply reset without showing the screen.) So, Jeh, when you say "Stop error leads to BSoD", I can counter-argue that "no, sometimes it leads to a system restart with no screen", but I mustn't because English is spoken with Synecdoche. When someone calls tech support can complains about BSoD, he doesn't want the support to just help him disable the screen, he or she wants the root of the problem eradicated. Etymology and hyponymy are just how words are made and are related to each, not what they represent.

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 23:42, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Should we also say that a BSoD is "often referred to" as a memory access violation? Nonsense.
Although incorrect usage certainly exists, Wikipedia should not help to promote it. e.g. if we mention "bugcheck" or "stop error" here it should not be to promote the misconception that these are perfectly fine alternate names for a BSoD; rather we should describe how they are related. Jeh (talk) 00:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
@Jeh: Yes, definitely nonsense because that is not even hyponymy, let alone synecdoche. Not all memory access violations lead to an error, let alone stop error; and not all stop errors are because of memory access violations.
Also, can you show me other instances of bugcheck and stop error in Windows that do not lead to halt and optionally blue screen of death? That said I am okay with describing how they are related. But somehow I am sensing you are not talking about them being cause and effect.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you're sensing what you're sensing - but IMO, Which is cause and which is effect is exactly what needs to be made clear. Jeh (talk) 03:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Let me ask you something first: Is this article about the whole phenomenon or just the about the not-so-pretty screen?
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 00:20, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
That's an excellent line of analysis. My opinion is that article content should follow the article title. So this should be at least 80% about the screen (that is the title, after all) and at most 20% about the "bugcheck" mechanism that gets there. These are clearly separate, as it is entirely possible to have a bugcheck (or as Unixy systems call them, kernel panics) that don't result in a BSOD—the most obvious case being that the system is configured to automatically reboot after a crash. If we want to cover the Windows bugcheck mechanism better, that should be in a different article. Or maybe this one, renamed to "Windows stop error" or "Windows bugcheck" and with BSOD, etc., redirected here. Jeh (talk) 18:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
@Jeh and Codename Lisa: I think this article is definitely about the screen. Screens from different operating systems are included in it just because they are blue. Fleet Command (talk) 10:28, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Okay. Codename Lisa (talk) 01:32, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Source of problem

So, what is the source of this problem? This article ought to explain that, if possible. Lbertolotti (talk) 17:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

The infobox

I agree with FleetCommand's removal of the infobox. The BSoD is not a "windows component". It's just an error message. Jeh (talk) 21:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

There was an infobox about the Blue Screen of Death. The Infobox contained reasonable information written from a neutral point of view. However, the Infobox was removed due to the following concern:

This infobox is partly misleading and vastly redundant.

First, I do not see how the Infobox was "misleading" as it contained only information from the article itself, so if the Infobox was misleading, so is the article itself (which I don't find is misleading). Second, I do not see how the Infobox was "redundant" because it "represents a summary of information about the subject of an article,"[1] and does it in a special way that couldn't be done without an Infobox, therefore making it non-redundant. (See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Purpose of an infobox for more information on why Infoboxes are not redundant.)--Proud User (talk) 13:23, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Proud User
Did you notify the reverting user of this discussion? You could drop him a note in his talk page, email him, or use echo notification to inform him, so that he can answer what he did.
The most misleading part is "A component of Microsoft Windows" written on top of it; and then there is the rather hilarious "Support status: Since Windows NT 3.1". Mind you, And overall, it is a very paddy way of delivering information. So, in the end, having this infobox is not a catastrophe, but not having it is still better. It does not make any problem for the article in a WP:GAC but definitely makes trouble in WP:FAC.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 07:24, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Infobox (this version)

Screenshot of Windows Server 2012 BSOD

Hello

I need your opinion. I have a screenshot of Windows Server 2012 R2 BSOD at hand. Should I put it in the article?

"Yes" could be an answer because it is visibly different from a Windows 8 and so far, there has been several attempts to label the Windows 8 screenshot as the same thing that appears on Windows 10 and Windows Server. (I reverted them all.) Fortunately, it is ineligible for copyright protection.

"No" could be an answer because the difference is not a marvelous revelation. So, unless the reader is a nerd like me, it might not interest him.

So, what it'll be?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 07:39, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

You can notify the user who did the change, if you want more input, you know. Fleet Command (talk) 05:52, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudbound: Maybe you should have seen and answered to this topic. After all, you are one of the people who seem to think the BSoD in Windows 8 and 10 are the same. In this change, you cited a PC Advisor article to back your claim up. But what you don't realize is the PC Advisor's screenshot is called "BSoD_in_Windows_8_thumb800.png", suggesting that not only it belongs to Windows 8 but comes directly from Wikipedia. (It's a bit-for-bit match too.) Fleet Command (talk) 01:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
@FleetCommand: You are right, I should have seen this first. Had I known PC Advisor were using our screenshot, I wouldn't have made the edit. Cloudbound (talk) 20:49, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Page Rename suggestion

MSDN refers to these "error screens" as BugChecks, and they are also referred to as BugCheck in the official Event Log. We could possibly move this page to Bugcheck and leave this page here as a redirect, maybe. Thoughts? --Saltedcake (talk) 14:34, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

That is an incorrect interpretation. The full name of the error screen is actually "character mode stop message" but I hope there is no question that "Blue screen of death" is the WP:COMMONNAME. A "bugcheck" on the other hand is the system event - a "check" on conditions that finds a situation from which the system must stop; another interpretation is that it's a "check" like that in chess; either way it's the result of a "bug" - that is being reported to the user via the BSoD. And just btw, the first of the five numbers that used to be on the BSoD is called the "bugcheck code". It's like a status code, indicating the sort of thing that went wrong.
Of course the event log does not say refer to these events as BSoDs. The BSoD is not the event. But the BSoD is what the user sees. And this article is mostly about the screen and the information displayed on it.
But given all that... we should certainly mention the term bugcheck here, but I can't see moving the article. Jeh (talk) 14:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Aside: the term "bugcheck" dates back at least to VMS (like a lot of things at the core of the NT family OSs). Jeh (talk) 14:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing that up, I learned something new in my pursuit of computer science. Bugcheck is mentioned, but seldom. Perhaps it should be expanded with citations. I would do it myself but I have an education to attend to. --Saltedcake (talk) 14:51, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

"Similar screens" section doesn't belong here

The "Blue Screen of Death" is a deliberately created and displayed error message signifying a fatal operating system error in Windows. There is specific code in Windows to put the error information on the screen. There is even a little part of the video driver that this code uses to that the BSoD can be displayed even if the fatal error occurred in the video driver.

Screens that just stop working (even if at a particular phase of operation that leaves them blank with a specific color background) are not "similar" and should not be described here. I suppose we could mention them in the "see also" section, if they have articles. Ditto for screens attached to systems or devices that have frozen or "locked up", retaining whatever was displayed on them just before the problem.

If there isn't an error message on the screen that's associated with the failure, it's not a "similar screen".

Otherwise... we could as well claim a "black screen of death" when the LCD backlight fails... or when we forget to turn the monitor on. Jeh (talk) 20:56, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Support. Hi. I agree that all screens deemed "Similar" must be both similar in nature (i.e. error screens) and deliberately similar. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 13:31, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Windows 10

I have seen the BSOD of windows 10 before when my Win-10 pc crash and it looked similar to the one on windows 8... that was build 10240 and 10586. But in build 14393 it added QR code... Must we add information to the page? 220.255.100.134 (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Isn't it there already? Codename Lisa (talk) 13:35, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

The PC version of the Sonic CD game gave me BSOD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spin Dash CD (talk • contribs) 19:46, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Looking for an admin

Is there an admin here??? TheCoolGuy125 (talk) 07:05, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

If you want to report something to admins and have them respond in their capacity as admins, post your question at one of the Administrators' Noticeboards. The general-purpose one is here: WP:AN There are others for reporting specific problems such as vandalism, edit warring, etc. A complete list is here: WP:Noticeboards Jeh (talk) 07:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

BSOD colors

http://toastytech.com/files/bsod.txt The source on how the color of the BSOD is defined and how to change it in 3.1/95/98

Changing the BSOD in Windows 8/8.1/10 is a bit more complicated: https://colinxu.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/change-windows-8-bsod-color-and-emoticon/

Colgatepony234 (talk) 03:29, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Colgatepony234
Both of these sources are problematic, which is why you should stick to reliable sources only. The toastytech.com source is clearly mistaking an ordinary text screen message for BSOD. For one thing, Windows 3.1 does not have a BSOD. For another, the source says:

I usually get a BSOD right out of the blue at random intervals at least once a week. (Same error, and oddly it's usually non-fatal.)

If it is not fatal, then it is not a BSOD.
In another place it says:

Under Windows 3.1, just hit ctrl-alt-del.

Under Windows 95, just wait a while. :) If you are in a hurry you can bring up a full screen text message by writing a file to a floppy disk and ejecting the disk while it is in the middle of writing. This will result in an "insert disk" error message.

Again, Windows 3.1's CTRL+ALT+DEL screen is not a BSOD. (See Blue Screen of Death § Incorrect attribution) Nor is Windows 95's "insert disk" error message that can simply be dismissed. We have a full section in the article listing all the BSODs of Windows 95 and "insert disk" is not one of them.
The person blog on WordPress is still better, as it is mistaking something for something else. However, it fails to verify your original claim that "In later Windows versions, changing the color of the BSOD would require modifying the registry". Our friend Colin from Shanghai is clearly hacking and modding Windows kernel the way Mark Russinovich did. When you wrote "in Windows 8 and higher, it is possible to not only change the color of the BSOD, but also the emoticon" you were implying that this is a customization feature of Windows 8 while it is not.
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 06:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Add Windows 10?

As the comment suggests, the Windows 10 BSoD is slightly different. Should we include the difference between the Windows 10 and 8.1 BSoD? UpsandDowns1234 (Talk to me) (My Contribs) 22:48, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Problems

Some security companies send viruses immatating BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) to trick you into buying the product. If this seems to be happening, please contact a professional for help. It may show a BSOD screen multiple times and alert you to install the anti-virus software. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.2.201 (talk) 16:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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