Talk:Blonde versus brunette rivalry

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Why This Page[edit]

The topic of this article had grown to take undue weight in the Blond article, so after posting notice for a week and getting no comment, I moved it here from there. I'm not sure that it's actually an important subject, but since some people put so much work into it, I didn't want to delete it. rewinn (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the headings.[1][2] For others, refer to these sections from the Blond article's talk page (starting from the first one about this topic to the last one) for more information on what Rewinn means; it's actually only one person who put much work into this content. Flyer22 (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed: Section that discusses rivalry in context of adult entertainment[edit]

Section that discusses rivalry in context of adult entertainment The proposed section would be nearly identical to the section added to this article when it was part of the article Blond Topics:

  • Irving Klaw’s fetish films the featured blondes and brunettes
  • Female wrestling, i.e., mud wrestling, that specifically pits blondes against brunettes
  • Adult themed videos that use a blonde vs. brunette construct

Two images will be used; same as when this was part of the Blond article.

  • Two topless women wrestling, but no frontal nudity (i.e., breasts) showing
  • Video cover of a strip tease VHS tape titled “Blondes vs. Brunettes.” The cover does not contain nudity, both women are fully dressed. No doubt the video itself contains nudity, but none of those images will be used.

I would not add the section until mid-April, giving at least 30 days time for feedback to this proposal.Vortex4id (talk) 03:19, 11 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Two editors explain how they have no comment to make.

This is possibly the stupidest article on wikipedia, so I have no comment on your proposal to converting it to a place where you can post your commentary on porn; I'm just taking it off my watch list and going someplace where the grown-ups are. rewinn (talk) 21:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more, what a useless article. A rivalry over hair colour? Yawn. 88.104.51.153 (talk) 19:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I cut most of this as being primary-sourced to the back of a DVD box last year, but the "two topless women wrestling" image has been added back a couple of times by IPs since. It seems WP:GRATUITOUS when the article already has other images, and undue to be illustrating what seems an obscure aspect of the subject - the article has only one short blog-sourced sentence about wrestling. --McGeddon (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page move[edit]

Should I move this page to "Blonde vs brunette rivalry in America"? That sounds like a more appropriate name for this article. Epic Genius 16:34, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

The other countries in the article include UK, Russia, Australia and France. Admittedly most of the info is about the U.S. But many articles are focused on the U.S. and we don't call them ["Name of article" in the United States]. I've undone the move since it disrupts many links. Why don't we let this stay as is and work to highlight other countries?Vortex4id (talk) 03:29, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I moved it back. I suggest we defer a future move for at least 30 days. The article has had 5,000 views in the past month; seems to be popular. I will work on revising in April so it's not so American-centric.Vortex4id (talk) 03:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I added & expanded the discussion of Russian Blonde vs Brunette chess matches. I have a few more fixes in the month of April that will establish a more international balance to the article.Vortex4id (talk) 03:26, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Section about men?[edit]

Should there be a section about men with blond hairs and brunette hairs? --George Ho (talk) 21:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with your observation, but I have never found any blonde vs. brunette rivalry information pertaining to men. If you can find notable sources, then go for it!Vortex4id (talk) 01:58, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Images deleted[edit]

Would be nice if the images were not deleted but with regard to obtaining and documenting permissions, Wikipedia seems to keep moving the goalposts. Be assured that all the images were used with the owners permission and e-mails were forwarded to OTRS, but apparently that's not enough anymore.Vortex4id (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the images were deleted despite an e-mail having been sent to OTRS, then it probably means one of the following:
  • The uploader forgot to tag them with {{subst:OP}} and the OTRS team didn't have time to read the e-mail within a week
  • The permission was insufficient
  • The OTRS team was unable to identify which files the e-mail referred to
In either case, I suggest that the uploader asks for clarification at Commons:COM:OTRS/N. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the OTRS ticket came thru for the DWW file, although not the Anastasia file. One of two ain't bad.Vortex4id (talk) 18:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this page clarifying black haired women as brunette?[edit]

A lot of the examples cited (such as Archie) are actually about raven haired women vs blonde women. 2001:48F8:7049:C24:4583:8597:2982:8C18 (talk) 21:51, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

First source doesn't appear reliable[edit]

The first source in this article, cited three times, appears to be an undergraduate research paper published by the author's home college/department. No indication of undergoing any external peer review or anything. I think this should be removed as not being a reliable piece of scholarship. --ZimZalaBim talk 02:35, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reinke's paper is an undergraduate research paper published in Chrestomathy: Annual Review of Undergraduate Research, School of Humanities and Social Sciences, School of Languages, Cultures, and World Affairs, College of Charleston. Google search shows that Reinke is currently employed as the "Director of Gender Violence Prevention & Health Education" at Bowdoin College, Maine after having previously worked as an Adjunct Professor of Gender Studies at Arizona State University. Is her work as "reliable piece of scholarship"? Seems that it is, but what is the Wikipedia criteria? If we accept newspaper articles written by journalists with little or no academic qualifications, why wouldn't we accept this published undergraduate work by somebody who appears to be distinguished in their field of study? Don't know the answer to any of this, my Wiki expertise is an inch deep.Vortex4id (talk) 16:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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