Talk:Blank verse

A problem with dates

If Howard was the first to use the blank verse, how could he do that if he died in 1547, and his translation of the AEneid is dated 1554 in the article?--93.40.79.215 (talk) 11:36, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. The translation was published posthumously. Man vyi (talk) 09:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Refrences Needed

Mostly in the first section, with the list of different authors using blank verse. JONJONAUG 15:41, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

In general, there needs to be more references. And not just in the first section! I'm unhappy with the degree of research that has gone into making this article. Gingermint (talk) 05:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Gilbert & Sullivan

How is the fact that Princess Ida is exceptional in having 3 acts instead of 2 remotely relevant to this article?Exitr 15:55, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I've removed it. Stumps 20:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Let's expand content related to non-English use of blank verse

As it stands the article is very much centered around English blank verse. I think we should expand the content on the use of the form in other languages, including references to - for example - Słowacki's and Norwid's 'wiersz biały' in Polish, the 'Белый стих' of Bobylev (Bobylyov) in Russian, the German adoption of the English style, particularly in the works of Schiller, Goethe, Grillparzer, Hebbel, Kleist etc... The article already makes a passing reference to the Slavic bylina genre. We should expand the discussion of origins to mention Trissino's Sofonisba and Rucellai's Le api and that it is believed Rucellai coined the term versi sciolti. Clearly the section on "English blank verse" will be the largest, and may in time grow large enough to have its own article. Stumps 08:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Blank verse in A Course In Miracles

I miss mention of A Course In Miracles for its extended use of Blank verse over hundreds of pages. The amazing thing about is, while one has to get used to it, it is still a language of modern use.

"God has not many Sons, but only One. Who can have more, and who be given less? It is for him the Holy Spirit speaks, and tells you idols have no purpose here. For more than Heaven can you never have. If Heaven is within, why would you seek for idols that would make of Heaven less, to give you more than God bestowed upon your brother and on you, as one with Him? God gave you all there is. And to be sure you could not lose it, did He also give the same to every living thing as well. And thus is every living thing a part of you, as of Himself. No idol can establish you as more than God. But you will never be content with being less." (A Course in Miracles. 2nd. New York: Penguin Group, 1996. ISBN 0-670-86975-9. Text. page 621)

"You who perceive yourself as weak and frail, with futile hopes and devastated dreams, born but to die, to weep and suffer pain, hear this: All power is given unto you in earth and Heaven. There is nothing that you cannot do. You play the game of death, of being helpless, pitifully tied to dissolution in a world which shows no mercy to you. Yet when you accord it mercy, will its mercy shine on you." (A Course in Miracles. 2nd. New York: Penguin Group, 1996. ISBN 0-670-86975-9. Workbook. page 364)

Thanks--Mindawiki 20:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Best, mentioned in an article about that work. Gingermint (talk) 05:19, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

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Actual history of blank verse?

This article seems to be little more than a chronological list of authors who used blank verse. There are many questions it doesn't address at all, such as:

Why was Gorboduc written in blank verse?
Why did authors and playwrights continue to use blank verse?
How did authors and playwrights evaluate their meter?
How did scholars evaluate meter (e.g., is the "general metrical looseness in the hands of less skilled users", referred to in this article, a modern pronouncement? Or was that the contemporary consensus? How was skill evaluated at the time?)
How did actors handle the meter in their performance?

And I don't mean the aesthetic effects of verse (e.g., "blank verse produces powerful and involved speech.") unless there is direct contemporary evidence explicitly indicating that the authors chose to write in verse for its aesthetic effects. I mean, particularly, what was the scholarly understanding of the nature, function, and and application of meter and blank verse at the time? I don't know, and I don't know where to find the evidence so that I could know.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.247.132.51 (talk • contribs) 13:11, October 6, 2018 (UTC) I completely agree with you and I add that the article is unclear as to what constitutes "English poetry". Does it refer to English-language poetry or to the Poetry of England? The target of the link used in this article suggests that it is the latter, but this article then goes on to discuss American poets like Robert Frost, suggesting it is the former. Also, the article focuses way too much on the English language as opposed o other languages.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  16:53, 14 February 2021 (UTC)