Talk:Bernina Range

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Heights[edit]

The elevation of the peaks all seem to be about 7 meters high. Piz Bernina is usually credited as 4049 and Piz Zupo is never listed above 4k, usually credited as 3995 m. Could someone help out? Swlenz 19:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed Piz Bernina to 4,049 m and Piz Zupo to 3,995 m; these heights are the ones given in Collomb, Robin, Bernina Alps, Goring: West Col Productions, 1988. Also made other changes (Roseg, Scerscen) but there are more to do; they ALL seem wrong as they are.Ericoides 10:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Extent: difference between text and map[edit]

Our text describes the Bernina and Bregaglia as distinct ranges. The yellow part of the map, however, includes both areas. (Incidentally the German Wikipedia text (de: Berninamassiv) makes the same distinction as we do, while the French Wikipedia includes what we call the Bregaglia as part of the fr:Chaîne de Bernina.) —Ian Spackman 11:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was apparent when I moved the Bregaglia peaks from the Bernina Range to their 'own' range. My justification would be that in British climbing circles, as well as in Collomb's guidebooks, the Bregaglia is quite distinct from the Bernina. Whether it should count as a 'range' in its own right is another matter; this seems one of those unresolvable areas perhaps, like the Graians vs Mont Blanc range. Summitpost seems equally uncertain with its Val Masino page. Personally I think that given their quite different natures - granite rock peaks vs glaciated peaks - and the conventions within British circles, the Bregaglia Range page should remain; perhaps a comment to the effect that these are contentious definitions (which I have sort of put in the lead to the Bregaglia article) would be useful. What do others think? Ericoides 16:58, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we could simply add a sentence as a new third paragraph saying something like

The term Bernina Alps can also be used in an extended sense to include both the Bernina and Bregaglio ranges; this is the area coloured yellow on the map and labelled ‘Bernina Alpen’.

—Ian Spackman 11:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good solution IMO. Markussep 11:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, good solution; I've added the sentence as a new third paragraph. Ericoides 12:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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Rated a stub because no references provided. RedWolf 06:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 06:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:30, 29 April 2016 (UTC)