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Benjamin Loxley was one of the Art and architecture good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
March 16, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
February 25, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 26, 2015.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that it was Benjamin Loxley's house key that was used by Benjamin Franklin for his kite experiment to attract lightning?

Current status: Delisted good article

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Kevin1776 (talk · contribs) 20:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am willing to review this article and help get it to Good Article status. A quick perusal suggests there may be some factual issues regarding Loxley's military service. The infobox says: 1750–1755 (British Army), 1775–1780 (Continental Army), but the text of the article provides no evidence that Loxley was a member of either of those organizations. Serving with Braddock in 1755 didn't make one a soldier of the British Army; serving in state or militia units during the American Revolution didn't make you a member of the Continental Army. I'm guessing Loxley belonged to the militia in both cases, rather than the Army. Clarification needed. Kevin1776 (talk) 20:55, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It appears Loxley's interesting military career is referenced in this book: Seymour, Joseph. The Pennsylvania Associators, 1747-1777. United States, Westholme Publishing, LLC, 2012. I'm guessing from the snippets I've seen that Loxely was not a part of Braddock's expedition. Rather, he was a part of the militia that was formed as a result of Braddock's defeat. It appears he took part in local defenses during the 1764 march on Philadelphia of the Paxton Boys. Kevin1776 (talk) 21:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done - removed him from the organizations in the infobox. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the infobox still says he was a Lieutenant (British Army) and a Major (Continental Army). Was he?

Yes, the reference sources seem to indicate this to me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section on the "American Revolution" is, I'm afraid, somewhat incoherent from a historical standpoint. You have him joining the American "independence movement" after Braddock's defeat in 1755, which is about 20 years too early.

Where I got that idea was from the reference source where it says, During both the French and Indian War and the Revolution, he served as an officer of artillery and recruited heavily for the American cause among the building trades. The French and Indian War starts in 1754. Braddock's defeat was in 1755. Yes = any guidance from you would be appreciated, as I certainly am not an expert in this area.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:00, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I can help you straighten that out. I just noticed this paper online about Loxley's military career which will help us do that: https://americansocietyofarmscollectors.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2006-B93-Light-the-Match-Load-Away-The-Ordnance-a.pdf Kevin1776 (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for any help you can provide on this. I can see you are more tuned into this than I am.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've sorted it out for the most part. I'm not sure if Loxley's unit was adopted into the Continental Army or just served along with it, but I think we've got enough here for a Good Article. Good work. Kevin1776 (talk) 01:35, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notes[edit]

Removed (obvious): "Benjamin Loxley Hero". The Times. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. June 1, 1891. p. 3 – via Newspapers.com . SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:05, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
More same: "Lydia Darrach / Loxley House, Philadelphia, Where she played eavesdropper". The Wilkes-Barre News. Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania. December 18, 1907. p. 14 – via Newspapers.com . SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:21, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyright problem[edit]

This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC) See also WP:DCGAR.[reply]

Note also that the DYK Hook was based on the account of his great grandson, which is not a reliable source for such a claim. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:49, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]