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The biblical city was called B(e)nei-V(e)rak (בְּנֵי־בְרַק). Beneberak is merely the King James translation. I don't think the current name is appropriate. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 13:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Use English. Beneberak is the earliest and longest standing English spelling. Bnei Vrak is merely a transliteration from Hebrew; and its not even the Biblical Hebrew - it uses V as with pronunciation in "New Hebrew" (i.e. modern Hebrew), instead of B as with classical Hebrew. Newman Luke (talk) 20:05, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Different from Bnei Barak[edit]

As cited in the article: "The Palestinian village of Ibn Ibraq ("Son of Ibraq/Barak") preserved the name of the ancient site. Its Arab villagers renamed it al-Khayriyya, to distinguish it from the Jewish agricultural settlement of Bnei Barak established 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) to the south in 1924.^[1]" Tiamut^talk 17:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, as the "modern" city was built as a continuation of the ancient city, but you're saying that the sources indicate they area few km apart? In that case, should the two be merged and this be the history of the modern one? -- Avi (talk) 19:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think merging is a good idea. While Bnei Barak was intended by its founders to be a continuation of Beneberak, the actual continuation of the ancient site was the Palestinian village of Ibn Baraq, which preserved the name of the ancient site until it was renamed al-Khayriyya after the founding of Bnei Barak in 1924. Al-Khayriyya was depopulated and destroyed in 194 and the waste treatment center of Hiriya was built on top of it. One could argue that Benebarak should therefore be merged into Al-Khayriyya. But I think its probably best to retain an entry on Benebarak that outlines all of this and provides links to all the places concerned so that the reader can decide which place's history he wants to explore: the site that was located where it was or the site that was named for it but is located kilometers away. 19:13, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, thank you for the explanation. -- Avi (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Discovering the information during my research on al-Khayriyya was fun and I'm glad to get to share it. Thanks for listening. Tiamut^talk 19:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cancik et al., 1996, p. 484.

[Cancik-1] Cancik et al., 1996, p. 484.

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