Talk:Battle of Hatfield Chase

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Use of flags in infobox[edit]

National flags in the modern sense simply did not exist in 633 A.D. Military banners existed, but it's not often that we have much useful or detailed information about them. I would be very curious to know what the basis or evidence is for the claimed flags in the infobox... AnonMoos (talk) 11:10, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Certainty about the location[edit]

The Hatfield Chase page says that the site of the battle is uncertain - it could be in Nottinghamshire. Other sources are also say it is uncertain (e.g. ISBN 0715404067 page 59). Should something be added to flag this on the page?

Surely the spelling is Hatfield Chace - and it is pretty definite where Hatfield Chace is, between Hatfield and Hatfield Woodhouse in South Yorkshire. But the battle could, of course been nearby, since a lot of this was wetlands/marshlands — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.48.39 (talk) 21:25, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It was called by Bede the Battle of Haethfelth (not Hatfield Chace/Chase)- this does not mean it was at Hatfield Chase and that is disputed. It could have been in quite a few locations in South Yorkshire/North Nottinghamshire where there are a few Hatfields. There is no certainty over the battlefield - no archaeology as far as I'm aware. This uncertainty isn't reflected in the article. see eg http://battleofhatfieldsociety.co.uk/about-us/welcome and https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/researchframeworks/eastmidlands/attach/County-assessments/NotAngloSaxon.pdf The identification of the battle with Hatfield Chase was much later and (William Camden 17th century) and more recent scholarship and archaeology lays doubt on his assertion. In 1975 Stanley Revill argued for a site close to Cuckney, known as Heathfield, because of the routes nearby. In 1950 excavations at Cuckney found 200+ male skeletons in a pit. The pit pre-dated the construction of the Norman church. SandrinaHatman (talk) 22:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Trioedd Ynys Prydein: The Triads of the Island of Britain page 156 deals with the possible confusion in Annales Cambriae between Hatfield and another battle at Meigen, Long Mountain, near Welshpool. Anyone want to take this on? Gilgamesh4 (talk) 08:40, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Name and challenged location[edit]

Name and alleged location[edit]

Firstly, this article was named as [Battle of] Hatfield Chase without references in the initial 2004 upload. The alleged-location "The site was a marshy area about 8 miles NE of Doncaster on the south bank of the River Don." was added by an Australia-based writer - again unsourced - in 2006.

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Challenged location[edit]

In regard to the comments in earlier sections above, I have added a new section to annotate within the article that the location is being challenged, as this has been discussed in secondary sources. As editors will know, Wikipedia is not censored, so per WP:NPOV this seems to me to be a reasonable way to address the imbalance regarding the unsubstantiated location.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 20:51, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Location[edit]

This battle has more evidence for having took place at Cuckney, Nottinghamshire. The only evidence for it taking place at Doncaster is the place name of ‘Hatfield Chase’ in the vicinity, however, Cuckney also has a ‘Hatfield’ nearby, along with the discovery of a mass grave beneath the church and the etymological links of Edwinstowe (Edwin’s resting place) and St Edwin’s Cross, on the site of St Edwin’s Chapel, nearby.

Why would the Northumbrians go miles further south into Mercia following their defeat? The evidence is overwhelmingly in support of the battle not having took place near Doncaster. 2A00:23C7:D483:2501:A509:66BC:6CF5:4F3C (talk) 09:23, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What "evidence"? Do share. Also, please be aware that Wikipedia has a conflict of interest policy, in case there's anymore that needs sharing.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 19:18, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

http://battleofhatfieldsociety.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/HLF-Reference-OH-14-10242-BOHIS-Community-Book-FINAL-17-03-16.

http://www.mercian-as.co.uk/reports/MAS049_cuckney_excavation_2019.pdf

http://battleofhatfieldsociety.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/MERCIAN-Report-FindsFromCuckney-v1_3-01-02-22.pdf

What evidence is there of the battle being near Doncaster other than a ‘Hatfield’ nearby? 2A00:23C7:D483:2501:E87C:F300:1BAE:3B11 (talk) 08:07, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]