Talk:Battle of Höchstädt (1800)

Comment on Assessment

There are two uncited paragraphs in Background. There are no supporting materials. This is easily fixable; you could add a picture of Moreau for example. Djmaschek (talk) 01:56, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

• Antoine Richepanse is misspelled "Richenpasse" in the article. Djmaschek (talk) 02:46, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Battle of Höchstädt (1800)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 10:16, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	North in the lead should be northY fixed. mediatised? Plain English needed here, at a minimum it should be linked.Y linked. link French DirectoryY, Old Swiss ConfederacyY, plus some explanation of what they were. Kray's army was still guarded the passes? ie should be "guarding"Y I've fixed this a fair amount of overlinking, Lake ConstanceY, NapoleonY, MoreauY, KrayY, LecourbeY, StockachY, TyrolY, FZMY, WürttembergY, Electorate of BavariaY, German mediatizationY, BlindheimY, DonauwörthY fixed. still a few more to go I think I have them now. I don't know how you find them.Y Think about installing the User:Ucucha/duplinks script, then you will have a link in the left toolbar that will highlight them for you. Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 01:11, 23 October 2014 (UTC) In Dispositions section, some linking needed, eg Tapfheim etcY
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	the lead has two citations in it for information that does not appear to be at all controversial. These facts should be covered in the body of the article and cited there, rather than in the lead.Y half of the lead relates not to this battle, but its predecessor 100 years earlier. Needs to be a proper summary of this battle.Y
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	what is the reliability of napoleon-series.org?Y very reliable. Standard "go to" for documents re the napoleon era. Who is Arnold in the citations? No reference listed.Y James Arnold. Fixed. Is Digby Smith the same as Smith?Y Yes. Fixed (clarified) I am unsure about the extensive use of Moreau, as it appears to be a primary sourceY Used as a source in a secondary source. Citation clarified.
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	File:Votivbild Schlacht bei Meßkirch mit Rahmen.jpg doesn't have an appropriate licence, it appears to be about the photograph of the painting, not the painting itself. I suspect the appropriate PD licence might be PD-Art, but I suggest you check with Nikkimaria. Have pinged Nikkimaria, but not heard back from her yet. I see Nikkimaria has recommended PD-US/PD-US-1923-abroad for this one. If it was changed to that, it would be fine.Y this image has been removed File:Jean-Victor Moreau.jpg doesn't look right either, unless assumptions are being made about the life span of the author. Currently there is noting in the licence to indicate anything about the assumed life span of the author. This is the standard image of Moreau used throughout wikipedia, and on most books about him. I don't doubt it, but to use it in a GA we need to know what the copyright situation is, the source link is dead. As Nikki says, we need to know when it was created and/or who the author was.Y this image has been replaced with one that is clearly PD (known author, known date of death over 100 years ago) Licensing of File:Pal Kray.jpg is also dubious. Where is the evidence that Jens-Florian Ebert released it into the public domain? same as image of Moreau.Y (this image has been removed and replaced with one that is PD).
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	Is File:Pal Kray.jpg an image of Kray or Archduke John?Y duh. Good catch. I've added image of Archduke John.
	7. Overall assessment.	On hold for seven days for the above comments to be addressed Listing as GA, well done. Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 01:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

• • Have a few more issues to cover. Waiting to hear from Nikkimaria. Also a friend is working on some maps for this and the other battle articles in GA review, and I was going to have them in the article when it came up to A class review. auntieruth (talk) 16:26, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Undue weight

Is there a reason for the 1704 battle to make up to one third of the lead ?

The end result of the battle was the opposite of what had occurred on those same fields almost 100 years earlier, when the armies of the Grand Alliance had faced the armies of France during the War of the Spanish Succession. At the Second Battle of Höchstädt in 1704, called the Battle of Blenheim by the English, the overwhelming Allied victory ensured the safety of Vienna from the Franco-Bavarian army, thus preventing the collapse of the Grand Alliance. France's loss during that engagement opened the pathway into France for the allied English and Austrian forces.

Yug (talk) 17:28, 19 June 2021 (UTC)