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Source of image[edit]

The photograph shown needs a source. Never mind copyright, how do we know that this is indeed a ship that took part in the battle? Andreas ^(T) 16:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The painting is the "Battle of Elli" (1913) by Vassileios Chatzis, from the Naval Museum of Greece, in Piraeus. Chatzis died in 1915, and the painting is in public display in a museum, hence in the public domain. I am adding the relevant information to the image summary. Cplakidas 16:50, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for sourcing it! It is a nice painting reflecting the battle.Argos'Dad 20:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Takabeg (talk) 06:11, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish order of battle[edit]

Wanting to distinguish between "battleship", "pre-draughtnaught battleship" and "ironclad" (also called "ironclad battleship") as these differences matter. There's quite a difference between a turret ship built in 1870, a battleship built in 1890, and the 'USS Iowa, and using the same term doesn't help the reader visualize what we're dealing with here.

At the Battle of Lemnos, the Turks had (according to that article) 3 capital ships:

Ottoman battleship Barbaros Hayreddin, a pre-dreadnaught
Ottoman battleship Turgut Reis, a pre-dreadnaught
Ottoman ironclad Mesudiye, an ironclad, or ironclad batteship if you prefer

At this article (Battle of Elli), the infobox says 3 "battleships" and 1 "ironclad", thus one additional capital ship. They are:

Barbaros Hayreddin
Turgut Reis]
Mesudiye
????

What's the fourth ship? Are the infobox's three battlships the Barbaros Hayreddin, Turgut Reis, and Mesudiye, with a forth ship being the "ironclad"? Or are two of the battleships being Barbaros Hayreddin and Turgut Reis, the Mesudiye being the ironclad, and the Turks having an additional pre-dreadnaught battleship? I can't correct the infobox until I find this out. Herostratus (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]