Talk:Battle of Battle Hill

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Proposed deletion (PROD)[edit]

It is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern: "The subject may be worthy of an article, but this is grossly oversimplified and possibly misleading"

This is a terrible reason for deletion, but a good reason for improvement. Consequently I have removed the PROD. First, I thought of merging into New Zealand land wars. However, a look at Category:New Zealand land wars reveals there are many similar pages on individual campaigns (e.g. Battle of Ohaeawai), and the present (albeit much improved) article would fit in well into this pattern.

Did some basic checking of facts, was concerned that a Google search on "Wellington wars" produce a mixed bag of results, diluted with a government printing office in Wellington city, the battle with Napoleon etc, but the following result is fine with key dates right: Wright, M. Two peoples, one land: the New Zealand Wars 2006 (Ch. 2: Northern War, 1845-6; Ch. 3: Wanganui and Wellington wars, 1846-8; Ch. 4: First Taranaki War, 1860-1; Ch. 5: Waikato War, 1863-5; Ch. 6: Pai Marire; Chs. 7-8: Titokowaru and Te Kooti.) located here (page 9)

That is keep and fix. Power.corrupts (talk) 22:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Asked for assistance on Talk:New Zealand land wars Power.corrupts (talk) 22:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Power:corrupts, this is a poorly written mess. It's supposed to be about Battle Hill. There are only three paragraphs. The first is about Wairau, the second about Boulcots, and then the final one gets around to Battle Hill but doesn't even say when it took place! I think the PROD tag was warranted, and could generate the improvement you mentioned. It doesn't deserve to exist in its current form. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 22:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your prompt comment. I may have been carried away by the principal issues of deletion, a PROD window of 5 days is not much, compared to e.g. the temporal edit pattern of Talk:New Zealand land wars. I don't believe in PROD as a mechanism for calling attention, deletion is likely, and then there is nothing to improve on. regards, Power.corrupts (talk) 23:39, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You are most welcome to improve the article. However, if no one attempts to do so, I will nominate it for deletion.-gadfium 03:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Kaiwhakahaere comments would lead me to vote delete. Power.corrupts (talk) 16:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Battle of Battle Hill"?[edit]

Is this really the correct name for this engasgement? It is quite clumsy.

Most references I have seen just refer to the location, Battle Hill, or to Horokiri. I think 'Battle of Battle Hill' is just too clumsy.

What about 'Engagement at Battle Hill', 'Engagement at Horokiri' or just 'Battle Hill'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huttoldboys (talk • contribs) 01:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Engagement is ambiguous per Engagement (disambiguation), I don't think that word is an improvement. There are hundreds of articles using Battle as the title[1], about 10 using Skirmish, only two using Engagements. Just 'Battle Hill' would be more appropriate to describe the geography. XLerate (talk) 08:16, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge[edit]

I have extensively rewritten and expanded Hutt Valley Campaign including improvements to the Battle Hill section. There is little now in this article that is not contained in that one and certainly not enough to warrant its continued existence as a spinout article. I propose this article be replaced with a redirect to Hutt Valley Campaign. BlackCab (talk) 02:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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