Talk:Battle of Albulena

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Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:13, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Ujëbardha → Battle of Albulena — As per WP:UCN. Albulena is the most common English name for the battle (Compare: [1] to [2]). Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 02:13, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: - Jarry1250 ^{[Who? Discuss.]} 14:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commencing review.

Comments:

File:Assault_on_Turkish_encampment.jpg - needs a modern-day source; would benefit from being moved to Commons.
File:Sueleymanname_Akinci-Beys.png - needs a modern-day source; could do with a better file description page generally.
I have copyedited the article: not changed much, but you should check anyway. I have added in a few clarifys, too.

Extra recommendations:

Find a map

Otherwise, looks good to me. In fact, I normally find much more to say than just the above :P Regards, - Jarry1250 ^{[Who? Discuss.]} 14:53, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to review this article. Your copyedits are very good, I just fixed some typos here and there.
The first image I got from a modern publication of Demetrio Franco's book. Would giving this work? As for the second image, I did not upload this so I can't say for sure where it was found. I have seen it before though but this is not something which I could source.
I have tried to clarify everything. For the quarter-century long war part, I made it so it was Skanderbeg's personal war.
I also added a map.
Let me know what you think!--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 21:11, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be fine as a source, yes. The other source is not vital (since the copyright status is trivially established), but if you could take a moment to try to find it anywhere that would be good.

The clarify resolutions seem perfect.

I like having a map. It might also be nice to have a slightly more zoomed out "historical context" style map, done in SVG format. Are you familiar with using a program like Inkscape? I'm happy to give you a hand by creating a blank map you could mark the borders on if you had a map to hand you could use as a source.

Nonetheless, this is clearly a good article by quite a margin. I am therefore going to pass it. Regards, - Jarry1250 ^{[Who? Discuss.]} 14:41, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A date and the place of the battle[edit]

I noticed that Babinger wrote about September 2, 1457. This source is already quoted, and I believe noticed, especially taking in consideration that untill a couple of months ago, this was the date written in the infobox and lede. But then suddenly, the date was changed without explanation. It was significant change and required explanation, at least in the edit line. Therefore I politely remind the main contributor to this article not to make significant changes without explanation, at least in the edit description.

There is another well known historian who wrote about the date of this battle. It is Kenneth M. Setton. But he did not write that the date was September 24, he only wrote about the letter which was dated September 24, and which describes this battle.

Both Babinger and wrote that the place of this battle was Tomorrit (Tomoritsa), Mount Tomor (Maje Tomorrit) which is 11miles east of Berat. But this article doesn't mention Tomorrit. On the other hand Babinger and Setton do not mention Abulena.

I propose to double check the sources about the date and the place of this battle.

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The main contributor to this article changed the date of the battle to September 2, 1457 per above comment.Y
The place of the battle remained Lac according to Frasheri although Babinger placed it on Tomorrit.N--Antidiskriminator (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Strength[edit]

Telegraf news source say that Ottomam had 50k troops and Skandberg had 17k troops butAlbanian nationalists exxgreate strengths.Why? İnfo table just has 1 citutation about strengths and this source say them. 78.175.229.155 (talk) 17:32, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since when did a poorly written political online newspaper become a source since I don't remember Balliu1 (talk) 16:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The numbers[edit]

Every source says that the numbers were 10k Vs 80k so can I get an explanation who changed the numbers Balliu1 (talk) 16:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]