Talk:Baron Baltimore

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Would it be relevant to mention Mignola's fictional Lord Henry Baltimore? this is gay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.97.88.236 (talk) 16:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Manor of Baltimore, County Longford[edit]

I am very certain that there are a multitude of sources for this Longford fact, but I don't feel like looking through all of them. Who cares if it seems obscure, compared to the supposed Cork origin? Catterick (talk) 06:17, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Misconceptions about the Irish peerage[edit]

The article currently says:

"As members of the Irish peerage, the Lords Baltimore were able to sit in the British House of Commons." "Irish peerages were often used as a way of creating peerages which did not grant a seat in the British House of Lords and so allowed the grantee to sit in the House of Commons in London. "As a consequence, many Irish peers had little or no connection to Ireland."

The second and third sentences, although unreferenced, are correct. Up until the act of union of 180x Ireland was not part of the United Kingdom, per se. English kings, also ruled Ireland, separately, just as the English sovereign separately rules Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and Sark, as Duchess of Normandy.

The first sentence is wrong. Up until the act of union Ireland had its own, separate, Parliament, and its own, separate, House of Lords. An Irish peerdom was, generally, a reward, for political support. An Irish peerage was less prestigious than an English or Scottish peerage. None were created after the act of union.

I am going to alter the incorrect sentence. Geo Swan (talk) 13:05, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]