Talk:Barking Abbey

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List of Abbesses[edit]

Is there a list of Abbesses of Barking somewhere online? Can someone tell me if a Jane or Joan Neville was Abbess in the mid or late 15th century? She was a younger daughter of the 1st Earl of Westmorland by his second wife. Did she have any relation to Barking? And when did she die? --78.54.174.139 (talk) 22:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


I've added a List of the Abbesses to the Article. The records do appear complete for the period you are looking at and I can see no Jane/Joan Neville listed as Abbess. On her father's wikipedia page: Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland; it says only she was a nun, not an abbess.
"Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 108" says that she was a nun in "The Minories" which was the Abbey of the Order of St. Clare (an order of nuns) which was located between Aldgate and Tower Hill in London. It doesn't have a wikipedia page (I'll get round to making one). Barking abbey was a Benedictine Nunnery, where The Minories was an abbey of the Poor Clares; I can't see that Jane/Joan would have swapped religious orders, so I doubt she was ever even a nun at Barking Abbey.
Weir states she was a nun at the Minories, but she may have gone on to be the Abbess of The Minories. I have no proof that she was; and I have no proof she wasn't. The list of abbesses is incomplete and there are gaps that fit with the period she would have been there:
List of Abbesses of the Minories in the 15th century:
  • Margaret Helmystede, occurs 1400
  • Isabella of Gloucester, occurs 1421–2
  • Margaret, occurs 1441
  • Joan Barton, occurs 1479 and 1480
  • Alice Fitz Lewes, occurs 1501
But as I say, I couldn't tell you either way that she was abbess or not. Hope that gives you something to go on, anyway.
Best --Rushton2010 (talk) 23:09, 12 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect name - the name of the abbess in William's time was Aelfgiva, not Aefgiva. The latter name does not seem to exist outside this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.150.89.131 (talk) 10:55, 4 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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