Talk:Barbara Ann Wilcox

A fact from Barbara Ann Wilcox appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that transgender pioneer Barbara Ann Wilcox (pictured) proposed to her husband on the day she met him?

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Barbara Ann Wilcox

... ~~that transgender woman Barbara Ann Wilcox (pictured) successfully petitioned a California court to recognize her chosen name in 1941?~~ Source: Slate
- ALT1: ... that transgender pioneer Barbara Ann Wilcox (pictured) proposed to her husband the day she met him? Source: Slate

Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 7 April 2022 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing Mujinga (talk) 17:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - n
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: What a great hook ALT1 is, I love it. Just a few small issues: "She died on September 9, 1962." needs a cite. ALT0 is not currently mentioned directly in the text, so that would need fixing or we can roll with ALT1. Also QPQ needs doing. Mujinga (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mujinga: I've now done QPQ at Who Cares? (ballet). Death date citation is added, and text tweaked. Do you think ALT1 is the stronger hook? {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 19:13, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sdkb Cool QPQ is done, death is cited. I definitely think ALT1 is more hooky, so we can proceed by either 1/ striking ALT0 or 2/ mentioning and citing ALT0 in the article, then I can approve both. Up to you! Mujinga (talk) 11:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mujinga: Let's go with ALT1, then! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 16:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

cool, striking ALT0 and approving ALT1, image is relevant and appropriately licensed. Mujinga (talk) 21:26, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Notes from new page patrol review[edit]

Nice work! North8000 (talk) 18:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why is her deadname relevant like why is her old name on the page 4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.127.88.66 (talk) 10:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because she became notable under that name. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:13, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

gender pronouns[edit]

Should the article refer to her as 'her' rather than 'he' in the article 42.2.120.167 (talk) 11:25, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Discospinster: Hey! might I presume this user should be "she" instead of "he"? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 11:59, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Propose to protect this article as pronouns are being edited/reverted at a high frequency. The legal basis for gender identity is, as a current status worldwide, not universal, and thus open for debate. Because this article refers to an American person, I do think "she" should be used, considering the legal jurisdiction. Shonen84 (talk) 12:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And we have no interest in all of that. We have MOS:GENDERID. Will probably SP for a long time. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:09, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice, ok, wasn't aware of that, thanks! Shonen84 (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. It has been a learning experience for me as well. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 12:14, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage?[edit]

The article states: "When Richards's marriage became public during her case, she told reporters she would have it annulled. . ." This is the first mention of an actual marriage in the article (only a proposal is mentioned previously, leaving it up in the air if the proposal was accepted and if a marriage actually took place). There needs to be something about getting married before referring to a marriage. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 17:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Piledhigheranddeeper, fixed! {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 22:17, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]