Talk:Baldwin V of Jerusalem

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A fact from Baldwin V of Jerusalem appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 December 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that art historian Zehava Jacoby was able to suggest a reconstruction of the lost tomb of Baldwin V of Jerusalem, destroyed in an 1808 fire, using an 18th-century drawing (pictured) by Elzear Horn?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Baldwin V of Jerusalem.

GA Review[edit]

Passed. ✠ Robertus Pius ✠ (Talk • Contribs) 14:31, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Robertus Pius (talk · contribs) 16:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, here’s some things I noticed.

"because he was the tallest of the great lords present" needs a source.

Western princes refused to come to aid, likely because they could not be offered the crown but, at most, the prospect of a temporary rule on behalf of a minor. - What exactly were they refusing to come to aid for? What aid did Baldwin need?

Besides that I didn’t see anything else needing changes. Very interesting read. Good job!

Outcome

On hold. ✠ Robertus Pius ✠ (Talk • Contribs) 16:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My! Robertus Pius, this is the fastest review I have ever got. Thank you for your interest and kind comments. I doubled the citation for the "tallest of the great lords"; it is a quote after all, so it does not hurt to overcite. The quest for aid is explained in the first sentence of the second paragraph. Surtsicna (talk) 19:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok, I see that. I read it through it a few times and for some reason I thought it didn’t sound related to the first sentence, to me it was worded as if the aid was about something else. Or maybe I was just having a brain fart, which is more then likely. Alrighty then, I’m going to read through it one more time just to recheck everything then I think we’re good to go. Definitely deserving of good article status! Kind regards, ✠ Robertus Pius ✠ (Talk • Contribs) 20:13, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Horn's drawing of Baldwin's tomb

... that Israeli art historian Zehava Jacoby was able to suggest a reconstruction of the lost tomb of the medieval child-king Baldwin V of Jerusalem, destroyed in an 1808 fire, using a drawing (pictured) friar Elzear Horn had made in the 18th century? Source: [1] "On the basis of Horn's drawing, which proves to be fairly accurate, it is now possible to suggest a reconstruction of this monument".
- Reviewed: Quia maior, Wantage Code, Vanilla odorata, John Snow (public house)
- Comment: A GA and three new articles. Have fun!

Improved to Good Article status by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 22:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Baldwin V of Jerusalem; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Reviewing - TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This DYK nomination was done on 10/24. Baldwin V of Jerusalem was promoted at GA on 10/17. Elzear Horn was created on 10/19 and Zehava Jacoby and Tomb of Baldwin V were both created on 10/24. So the nomination is timely.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
BVoJ is 6251 characters. EH is 1866 characters. ZJ is 1835 characters. Tomb is 2002 characters. Unless there is significant overlapping content, all is good.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Overlap is not significant.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All articles are well-sourced.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:22, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
All articles are neutral.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
BVoJ copyvio is 89.8%. I have never seen such a high number. Please paraphrase and summarize rather than copy. EH is 1%. ZJ is 22.5. Tomb is 0%. Just fix BVoJ.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AGF on hook source.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hook interesting-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pic PD, used clear.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ done (4x).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:52, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think just the 1 copyvio needs to be fixed.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

TonyTheTiger, there is absolutely no copyright violation, let alone 89.8%. I do not understand where you get those numbers. Please do some manual spot checks. Most of the sources can be partially accessed via Google Books. Surtsicna (talk) 08:05, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it's the Info List. That website copies Wikipedia. Surtsicna (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:13, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]